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4K gaming possible at full settings on todays hardware?

Looking forward to your thoughts on this and to seeing the results of your tests with the most graphically demanding games, Greg.

Be careful you don't melt your rig when trying to run Crysis 3 at 4K maxed out though :D
 
Just benched Batman Arkham Origins with everything maxed (including PhysX) and it looks stunning in 4K - Frame rates however were low, with 35 minimum, 43 average and 54 maximum. I did another run with TXAA on full in place of MSAA and the results were much better with 44 minimum, 54 average and 71 maximum. Had a quick play with both settings and the MSAA on full felt ok but not quite fluid enough and a little unresponsive but switching to TXAA on full, the game felt very smooth and played very well. TXAA on max and a pair of Titans can cope in this game.

@ Bakes, check post #8 for a screenshot of desktop. I made the icons bigger as well, as they were silly small and AB also has the fot too small but thankfully my eyesight is still good and can read everything ok :D
 
Gregster said:
Just benched Batman Arkham Origins with everything maxed (including PhysX) and it looks stunning in 4K - Frame rates however were low, with 35 minimum, 43 average and 54 maximum. I did another run with TXAA on full in place of MSAA and the results were much better with 44 minimum, 54 average and 71 maximum. Had a quick play with both settings and the MSAA on full felt ok but not quite fluid enough and a little unresponsive but switching to TXAA on full, the game felt very smooth and played very well. TXAA on max and a pair of Titans can cope in this game.

@ Bakes, check post #8 for a screenshot of desktop. I made the icons bigger as well, as they were silly small and AB also has the fot too small but thankfully my eyesight is still good and can read everything ok :D
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Can you tell the difference in image quality with no MSAA at that res? I would have thought that res would negate the need for demanding levels of AA, which would make the jump in res a little less demanding than you would ordinarily assume.

From what you say though, it would appear we are going to be waiting around for a single card which has both the grunt and the high VRAM equivalent of 2 Titans to make its way in to the wild, until 4K has any chance of becoming a mainstream res. It is nice that 4K screens are becoming more affordable, but that alone isn't going to matter when it requires ~£2000 worth of GPU to drive it. Although obviously 4K has other uses other than games.
 
Five.Stars said:
Can you tell the difference in image quality with no MSAA at that res? I would have thought that res would negate the need for demanding levels of AA, which would make the jump in res a little less demanding than you would ordinarily assume.

From what you say though, it would appear we are going to be waiting around for a single card which has both the grunt and the high VRAM equivalent of 2 Titans to make its way in to the wild, until 4K has any chance of becoming a mainstream res. It is nice that 4K screens are becoming more affordable, but that alone isn't going to matter when it requires ~£2000 worth of GPU to drive it. Although obviously 4K has other uses other than games.
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£2k? Lol, his Titans are slower than the 780ti, which is cheaper and the 290x. You could argue VRAM but that's for another thread ;)
 
Gregster did you use the percentage setting to enlarge the UI. For 1440P I have to set mine to 125% to makes icons / text seem normal, otherwise it is all way to small.. What setting did you use on this 4K panel?
 
Just tested Dirt Showdown with full settings (8 X MSAA) and good frames 50 minimum and 80 average.

As for dropping AA, yes it is noticeable (surprisingly), you can see edges but with AA, they are much smoother. More testing needed but AA is noticeable.

I just used CTRL and the scroll wheel to enlarge text to what I need Boom. I think it does the same thing.
 
Tonester0011 said:
You still waiting for the swift?
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Tbh I'm waiting for anything that's actually going to be stocked in the UK sometime before the end of time, everything is may or June or later :(

I want reviews and final pricing before commiting to a swift, genuinely didn't expect to see decent 60hz 4k units this year.
 
pgi947 said:
Tbh I'm waiting for anything that's actually going to be stocked in the UK sometime before the end of time, everything is may or June or later :(

I want reviews and final pricing before commiting to a swift, genuinely didn't expect to see decent 60hz 4k units this year.
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I didn't expect 4k to comedown this quickly in price not without a serious compromise (30hz, not TN)
So i'm now putting a few pence back to pay for this monitor in May when it hits the UK, not a fan of using Ebay/importing but props to Greg (properly jelly :D) that his is here and working.

I've gone off FPS games, and been using my 1440 monitors a lot more than the 120hz, so not having a 120hz isn't a problem for me anymore, will be more than happy with 4k. Just getting the graphics cards again will be a pain :D
 
Seems to be a slightly better level of performance than I was expecting tbh. I am quite satisfied at 1080p 120Hz, but it is encouraging to see that the newer generations of cards are capable of performing to a more than decent standard. It will still be 12-18 months or more until a single gpu can carry that level of performance, so it will still remain a little bit of a niche market until such time, but things are heading in the right direction it would appear.
 
It's tempting, I'm holding out(been so ruddy long now :p ) for an oled or at least 120hz.

I'd quite like a 4k ips, at 60hz that would do for desktop/media content. I love my 120hz too much, still ridiculous the reasons for not having 120hz screens from the start of 4k screens. The main reason there aren't 120hz 4k screens is industry has taken so long to agree on a standard cable/come up with a new cable that can simply provide 120hz @4k, even single displayport @ 60hz screens are a relatively new innovation. Plenty of the previous screens needing 2x dvi or 2x hdmi to work.

I'm not actually sure if the Vesa standard AMD proposed does 120hz at 4k. I think it's still 60hz but with the standard to allow it over a single display port cable. Might be the case that the first 120hz 4k's require 2 cables.

Literally insane how long these idiots take to come up with these things. 120hz is so much better even at desktop, much smoother scrolling and the like. I don't even know what that bad boy connects. It can do the 60hz over single displayport? Then it's got two hdmi's, does that let you do 60hz with two hdmi cables or are they only for 30hz for different sources?

Just got me thinking, does that mean that consoles will only have the option of 30hz output to 4k screens?
 
Tonester0011 said:
I didn't expect 4k to comedown this quickly in price not without a serious compromise (30hz, not TN)
So i'm now putting a few pence back to pay for this monitor in May when it hits the UK, not a fan of using Ebay/importing but props to Greg (properly jelly :D) that his is here and working.

I've gone off FPS games, and been using my 1440 monitors a lot more than the 120hz, so not having a 120hz isn't a problem for me anymore, will be more than happy with 4k. Just getting the graphics cards again will be a pain :D
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My great worry is missing 120hz hence why I was waiting for the rog monitor but this and the incoming 4k monitors has changed things.
 
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