4K gaming possible at full settings on todays hardware?

Gregster · 29 Mar 2014 at 15:58

My testing so far with all details maxed out and as you can see, very low frames.

I will do some more games but I feel they will all be roughly the same. I was going to do some VRAM testing but because of the amount of caching, this would be a little misleading and wouldn't be representative of what is needed. Anyways, more testing needed and I will get into some playable settings for each game. Just a point to mention, Sleeping Dogs doesn't want to play at 4K and exits after the first part of the bench. Not sure on the game but it will bench fine at 1600P/1440P/1080P but not 4K

As for the cost, I paid £1654 at launch for 2 Titans.

TheRealDeal · 29 Mar 2014 at 15:59

Gregster said:
My testing so far with all details maxed out and as you can see, very low frames.

As for the cost, I paid £1654 at launch for 2 Titans.

So pretty much 2 games playable and the rest not. Decent frames though as dropping some aa would make the other 3 playable or would do for me.

Luke_Bowman · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:00

Would love for any of the super-enthusiast members to add to this with their equipment and test the 780ti's and 290x's

jktmstokes23 · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:02

Do those same games with 2xAA.

Very interesting topic here as I am also interested in 4k.

How is color reproduction and panel quality compared to your other monitors?

Did you ever have or use a 1440? On overclock.net a guy said the jump from 1440 to 4k wasn't as great as he would expect and he said not to do it. a lot of other people disagreed with him but what is your opinion on this?

Gregster · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:02

Luke_Bowman said:
Would love for any of the super-enthusiast members to add to this with their equipment and test the 780ti's and 290x's

They will be within touching distance of my results bud. You have to remember that this resolution will have a swing of 1-5 fps for a 780Ti/290X.

jktmstokes23 · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:04

http://www.overclock.net/t/1472671/samsung-4k-1ms-monitor-754-it-has-begun/330

first post. He said stuff like that a few pages back as well.

Thoughts?

Gregster · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:06

jktmstokes23 said:
Do those same games with 2xAA.

Very interesting topic here as I am also interested in 4k.

How is color reproduction and panel quality compared to your other monitors?

Did you ever have or use a 1440? On overclock.net a guy said the jump from 1440 to 4k wasn't as great as he would expect and he said not to do it. a lot of other people disagreed with him but what is your opinion on this?

I will be running the same games (plus a couple others) with AA lowered to X2 where I can.

As for 1440P to 4K, I can't agree with the guy at OCN and say it makes a big difference. I have a top of the range 1080P as well as a top of the range 1440P Dell and going from 1440P to 4K is worth it for me. TN is very much rubbished by people but comparing the TN quality compared to the IPS of the Dell is very good. Black is black with the Dell and Black isn't with the Sammy but don't let that put you off and viewing angles are great on the Sammy.

Luke_Bowman · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:09

How much will software affect these results?

Maybe with optimised games and drivers we can expect better results from the same hardware in the future? Or is it all down to pure grunt

jktmstokes23 · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:10

Gregster said:
I will be running the same games (plus a couple others) with AA lowered to X2 where I can.

As for 1440P to 4K, I can't agree with the guy at OCN and say it makes a big difference. I have a top of the range 1080P as well as a top of the range 1440P Dell and going from 1440P to 4K is worth it for me. TN is very much rubbished by people but comparing the TN quality compared to the IPS of the Dell is very good. Black is black with the Dell and Black isn't with the Sammy but don't let that put you off and viewing angles are great on the Sammy.

That is awesome to hear. How do you like the stand and the basic look of the monitor now that you have it? I actually loved how it looked in pictures, very modern and stylistic, but is it practical? Sturdy?

Well, I await further results and a full review from you, but I am glad you enjoy the monitor and I am glad that it is not a dud

Gregster · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:12

Luke_Bowman said:
How much will software affect these results?

Maybe with optimised games and drivers we can expect better results from the same hardware in the future? Or is it all down to pure grunt

Pure grunt. Software has a big part to play but at the end of it, it comes down to muscle and plenty is needed if you want max settings. The Titan Z will not allow max settings and playable frame rates, regardless of what nVidia say.

Five.Stars · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:13

Gregster said:
My testing so far with all details maxed out and as you can see, very low frames.

I will do some more games but I feel they will all be roughly the same. I was going to do some VRAM testing but because of the amount of caching, this would be a little misleading and wouldn't be representative of what is needed. Anyways, more testing needed and I will get into some playable settings for each game. Just a point to mention, Sleeping Dogs doesn't want to play at 4K and exits after the first part of the bench. Not sure on the game but it will bench fine at 1600P/1440P/1080P but not 4K

As for the cost, I paid £1654 at launch for 2 Titans.

Looks like at highest settings, a couple of Titan Z's are required to hit the smooth 60fps that most people aspire towards. Still pretty decent level of performance given that it is rendering around 8 million pixels.

How does the image scale if you run it at a lower resolution Greg? I know, why would you buy a monitor and run it lower than native you are asking, but obviously for games where performance isn't up to scratch, then running at a lower res is obviously another option as well as dropping the settings. Since you have another couple of monitors with a lower native, could you set the 4K to the same res as those and compare?

Luke_Bowman · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:15

You've got a busy day ahead if you plan to please the members of the forum Greg.

Let us leave the man to bench in peace and he may return with plentiful results

Gregster · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:15

jktmstokes23 said:
That is awesome to hear. How do you like the stand and the basic look of the monitor now that you have it? I actually loved how it looked in pictures, very modern and stylistic, but is it practical? Sturdy?

Well, I await further results and a full review from you, but I am glad you enjoy the monitor and I am glad that it is not a dud

The stand is rubbish and the monitor feels quite wobbly. I have my other monitors VESA mounted and this isn't an option for the Sammy. I knew that prior to ordering but I have spoken to a welder friend of mine at work and he said he can make up a bracket to support it with my current mount, so that will be handy.

danoliver1 · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:17

How do games look on this at lower res say 1080p with aa or 1920x1200 with aa, ii want the extra res for cs6 and lightroom but dont want to blow £1800 on gfx cards.

jktmstokes23 · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:18

Gregster said:
The stand is rubbish and the monitor feels quite wobbly. I have my other monitors VESA mounted and this isn't an option for the Sammy. I knew that prior to ordering but I have spoken to a welder friend of mine at work and he said he can make up a bracket to support it with my current mount, so that will be handy.

Damn, now that is a bummer :/

Tonester0011 · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:19

danoliver1 said:
How do games look on this at lower res say 1080p with aa or 1920x1200 with aa, ii want the extra res for cs6 and lightroom but dont want to blow £1800 on gfx cards.

Where do people keep getting these numbers from?? lol.
You are aware Greg spent less than that, and the performance of his cards have since been overtaken by cheaper cards

Kaapstad · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:22

Gregster said:
My testing so far with all details maxed out and as you can see, very low frames.

I will do some more games but I feel they will all be roughly the same. I was going to do some VRAM testing but because of the amount of caching, this would be a little misleading and wouldn't be representative of what is needed. Anyways, more testing needed and I will get into some playable settings for each game. Just a point to mention, Sleeping Dogs doesn't want to play at 4K and exits after the first part of the bench. Not sure on the game but it will bench fine at 1600P/1440P/1080P but not 4K

As for the cost, I paid £1654 at launch for 2 Titans.

With Sleeping Dogs have you tried lowering the OC or even running at stock, I think the bench puts quite a bit of stress on the system as the resolution increases.

Any chance of a Heaven 4 run for the scoreboard, I am pretty sure you will top the table for single and dual GPUs @4K.

Luke_Bowman · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:23

Greg paid £1654 for the pair of cards which is a substantial amount of money.

However, you can pick up a pair of 780ti's for £960 as of today

Kaapstad · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:34

Luke_Bowman said:
Greg paid £1654 for the pair of cards which is a substantial amount of money.

However, you can pick up a pair of 780ti's for £960 as of today

Yes but 14 months ago the only people who could buy a 780ti were those who owned a Tardis.

The other thing to remember is even though the Titans were expensive, people have had 14 months good use out of them and they are still more viable @4K than anything else apart from a Titan BE due to the 6gb of vram.

LtMatt · 29 Mar 2014 at 16:37

Kaapstad said:
Yes but 14 months ago the only people who could buy a 780ti were those who owned a Tardis.

The other thing to remember is even though the Titans were expensive, people have had 14 months good use out of them and they are still more viable @4K than anything else apart from a Titan BE due to the 6gb of vram.

You could argue a 290X 8gb is more viable as it has more ram and is cheaper + has 16 extra rops which do come in handy at high res.