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The Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 will be more than fine for a stock i5-2400. At £19.39 it's by far the best sub £30 heatsink.

Though I'd point out it seems a little mad selecting an i5-2400 and a P67 Chipset. For £19 more you'd be able to get an i5-2500K and actually be able to use the overclocking ability of the mobo. :)

Yes you would have to spend another £19.39 at least, for the heatsink.

So yeah, I'd suggest save up an extra £40 :p
 
Sasahara said:
The Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 will be more than fine for a stock i5-2400. At £19.39 it's by far the best sub £30 heatsink.

Though I'd point out it seems a little mad selecting an i5-2400 and a P67 Chipset. For £19 more you'd be able to get an i5-2500K and actually be able to use the overclocking ability of the mobo. :)

Yes you would have to spend another £19.39 at least, for the heatsink.

So yeah, I'd suggest save up an extra £40 :p
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Just so you know, you can overclock the 2400 cpu upto four process bins above its maximum turbo frequency actually.

Try reading this - http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/...-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/3

So up to 3.8GHZ should be possible.
 
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For £38 for the i5-2500K/heatsink and being able to hit 4.5 GHZ with not too much trouble seems the ideal option.

If he's looking at sli in the future that would be a little bit wasted with the slower chip, with the 2500K he wouldn't need to think about upgrading the cpu in the future. :)
 
Sasahara said:
For £38 for the i5-2500K/heatsink and being able to hit 4.5 GHZ with not too much trouble seems the ideal option.

If he's looking at sli in the future that would be a little bit wasted with the slower chip, with the 2500K he wouldn't need to think about upgrading the cpu in the future. :)
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So a 1 year warranty OEM chip, would be a bit of a bummer if it went faulty 1 day after the warranty expired.

And the OP hasnt mentioned anything about overclocking yet
 
stulid said:
So a 1 year warranty OEM chip, would be a bit of a bummer if it went faulty 1 day after the warranty expired.

And the OP hasnt mentioned anything about overclocking yet
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You know the chances of that happening? :)

If that was a major concern he could get the retail, in the link you posted they hit 4.4 GHZ with the stock HS. :)

That's slightly cheap than getting the 3rd party HS, all be it not as good.
 
Also if your so worried about warrenty time probably not a good idea to use a HD 5850 as he may not be able to find a new one for crossfire in the furture and have to resort to the 2nd hand market.

Or use a different ati model which I believe will work, but not ideal. :P
 
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Also if your so worried about warrenty time probably not a good idea to use a HD 5850 as he may not be able to find a new one for crossfire in the furture and have to resort to the 2nd hand market.

Or use a different ati model which I believe will work, but not ideal. :P
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It works fine, what are you talking about?:D

even the clock speeds of that MSI card are stock, so any second hand 5850 stock speed, which could even still have a chunk of warranty left on it will work fine.

your just trying to scare monger now for no reason.
 
stulid said:
It works fine, what are you talking about?:D

even the clock speeds of that MSI card are stock, so any second hand 5850 stock speed, which could even still have a chunk of warranty left on it will work fine.

your just trying to scare monger now for no reason.
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Your the one bringing up warrenties, not me. I'd just pointing out there's a fair chance going for the 5850 he'd have to resort to the second hand market and therefore not get a full warrenty.

If that's ok for the graphics card which based on my experience is more likely to fail than a CPU. Then the 1 year warrenty on the CPU should be worth the very slight risk too. :)

And by model I did mean model not oem reseller, example a HD 6850 which I think crossfire will work, but not 100% ideal.
 
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Sasahara said:
Your the one bringing up warrenties, not me. I'd just pointing out there's a fair chance going for the 5850 he's have to resort to the second hand market and therefore not get a full warrenty.
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Depends which manufacturer the 5850 comes from, some supply more than 2years, some even supply 5 years and transferable to new owners.

Then the 1 year warrenty on the CPU should be worth the very slight risk too. :)
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So the OP should take a risk now with his £600 ££££ pc.?

, example a HD 6850 which I think crossfire will work, but not 100% ideal.
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I hope you dont mean crossfire with a 5850?

and a 5850 is faster than a 6850 - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/295?vs=291
 
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meow!

Jesus i go away for a bit to watch the footy and come back to this debate ha-ha!

stulid i looked into the bench thing compared to shibbzy graphics card 6870 OC to the 5850 and theres not much it.

Prior to this i had been looking at the 5870 - why is it these older models still better than the 6000 series?
 
Banjo Sandwich said:
meow!

Jesus i go away for a bit to watch the footy and come back to this debate ha-ha!

stulid i looked into the bench thing compared to shibbzy graphics card 6870 OC to the 5850 and theres not much it.

Prior to this i had been looking at the 5870 - why is it these older models still better than the 6000 series?
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Because the High-end (5870/5850) from previous generation will always be better than the mid-range (6850/6870) of the next generation.

Its always been like this, the Nvidia GTX480 (£200 now) is faster than a GXT560ti (£200 new) and even equal to a GTX570 (£270ish)
 
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stulid said:
Depends which manufacturer the 5850 comes from, some supply more than 2years, some even supply 5 years and transferable to new owners.

So the OP should take a risk now with his £600 ££££ pc.?

I hope you dont mean crossfire with a 5850?

and a 5850 is faster than a 6850 - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/295?vs=291
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You seem to be the scare monger here, how many CPU failers have you seen? (Excluding reported issues where the 1 year warranty would suffice, or the user damaging them, which would void any warrenty)

The 6850 was an example not a suggestion, but you have seen the point if the OP can't find a new 5850, but happens to be worried about warranties (which you only you have brought up) has to buy new he'd have to get a card which is a different spec to the one he has, either faster or slower.

This might be not be an issue, but I'm just pointing out it could be.

Most ati card have 1-3 years warranty.
 
Banjo Sandwich said:
meow!

Jesus i go away for a bit to watch the footy and come back to this debate ha-ha!

stulid i looked into the bench thing compared to shibbzy graphics card 6870 OC to the 5850 and theres not much it.

Prior to this i had been looking at the 5870 - why is it these older models still better than the 6000 series?
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Are you worried about a 1 year warrenty? :)

From my experence 1 seen 1 possible cpu death in 15 years from around 150-200 PCs.

The 1 possible death was an IBM 6x86MX 133MHz, but this was 1 month ago for a 15 year old PC, since I don't have parts for testing I don't know if it's the mobo, CPU or Graphics that have died. :D

Now it's quite possible that some of them CPUs have died and I've not been told, but I'd expect if it had happend in the first 3 years I would have been. :D
 
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It wont be.

the faster gpu will auto clock to the slower gpu speed, if you dont understand anything about crossfire, I am sure ATi/AMD have many tech papers you can read:D
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I know that, it's just a waste of money having to buy a faster card but not get the benefit.

I've not done any new reading on crossfire for about a year so if they had changed something I wouldn't know, hence my caution. :)
 
Sasahara said:
I know that, it's just a waste of money having to buy a faster card but not get the benefit.

I've not done any new reading on crossfire for about a year so if they had changed something I wouldn't know, hence my caution. :)
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faster? by a small clock resulting in around 2-4% extra? the MSI that ocuk sell is reference stock speeds, there isn't any slower versions, so the chances of getting an identical clock sped 5850 are rather high:D

And crossfire has always worked by slowing down the faster card since its inception.
 
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