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5800X Boost set to 5050Mhz all cores with AMD Curve Optimizer

1% low is labeled 1%L then AVG then max. Over 15 minute gaming session 1%L was 60FPS at the end of video.

I prefer the SMT patch not for any reason other than just incase when I run into a really bad area maybe 1% lows will be a little higher.

No difference with all core overclock @ 4900Mhz only all core I tried and just AMD curve Optimizer + PBO that I can tell.

The environments change so much it is really hard to tell especially when playing GPU limited. Possible 1% lows up 3FPS-5FPS over a 15 minute gaming session best that I can tell and pure guess o my part.

I will have to switch from AMD PC to Intel PC and check if there is a difference,just real lazy to do it.
 
I watched the video,I can understand numbers in any language lol. Some people can not. hell some USA people can not do math problems if you change from miles to kilometers. Ok enough jokes.

I believe everything in the video and that is what he got.Which looks fine also. Like I said it is really hard to judge especially 1%Low/0.1%low. All I can say ,I am using the SMT patch and will continue to use it as I am guessing it helps with the 1% Lows and from my testing I am good with that 100%.I am very happy with CP77 now and the way it is running for me maxed out with DLSS Ultra.
I am playing on 4K LG OLED 65" and I can not see a real difference in screen quality.I can on 4K 27" Monitor.

My canned response foe the overlay,use latest MSI and Rtss. Also Yes MSI Afterburner and RTSS Overlay Editor, I done a quick start up guide for the OSD and uploaded it to google drive. Included in the read me a link to the creators tutorials of MSI Afterburner and RTSS Overlay Editor. IF you want to start from scratch his name is Alexey Nicolaychuk just search youtube . https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Flt2EeznPd2HO438678AbjUHnwWf6E6D/view?usp=sharing

Tags for changing stuff with MSI/RTSS
Time-<BTIME>
Framerate Max-<G=Framerate Max,-2,-2,1,0,300,28>
Framerate Average-<G=Framerate Avg,-2,-2,1,0,300,28>
Framerate min- Min\n<FRMIN> You can remove the /n

Can be used in MSI configs also

[## Tags, variables ##]
# <C> ------- color:
# <Cn=yyxxxxxx> -> <Cn>
# n ----------------- index number
# yy ---------------- alfa canal in hex
# xxxxxx ------------ color in hex
# <B=x,y> --- background
# <S> ------- text size in %:
# <Sn=50> ----------- superscript (íàäñòðî÷íûé);
# <Sn=-50> ---------- subscript (ïîäñòðî÷íûé).
# <A> ------- text alignment:
# <An=10> ----------- 10 symbols, left;
# <An=-10> ---------- 10 symbols, right.
# <P=x,y> --- position in pixels:
# x ----------------- horizontal;
# y ----------------- vertical.
# <APP> ----- used API ("VULKAN","OGL","D3D*")
# <FR> ------ FrameRate
# <FRMIN>, <FRAVG>, <FRMAX>,
# <FR10L>, <FR01L>
# <FT> ------ FrameTime
# <OBJ> ----- ?
#
# \n -------- line break (ïåðåíîñ ñòðîêè)
# \b -------- new column
# \t -------- indent (îòñòóï)
# \r -------- ?
#
# %CPU%, %FullCPU%, %RAM%, %GPU%, %FullGPU%, %Driver%, %Time%
# %FRAMETIME%, %FRAMERATE%,
 
Going over 1900FCLK is not important at all.tuning the Ram is most important on Ryzen ,especially for PC gaming.It is so fun though to play with the Ram,I encourage to get the highest you can.

AMD Ryzen Fabric Clock 1467Mhz (DDR4 2933Mhz) vs Fabric Clock 1933Mhz (DDR4 3866Mhz) PC Games B-die Ram.
Test were done on 3800X

Battlefield 5 1920x1080

DDR4 2933 Mhz (1467 MHz)
AVG -143.8FPS
1%Low -82FPS
0.1%Low -58FPS


DDR4 3866 Mhz (1933 Mhz)
AVG -144.5FPS
1%Low -82FPS
0.1%Low -62FPS


Grand Theft Auto V 1920x1080

DDR4 2933 Mhz (1467 MHz)
AVG -112.6FPS
1%Low -73FPS
0.1%Low -28FPS


DDR4 3866 Mhz (1933 Mhz)
AVG -114.5FPS
1%Low -76FPS
0.1%Low -28FPS

Video of test side by side




Red Dead Redemption 2 1920x1080

DDR4 2933 Mhz (1467 MHz)
AVG -95.2FPS
Min -47.5FPS
1%Low -68.0FPS


DDR4 3866 Mhz (1933 Mhz)
AVG -97.0FPS
Min -47.2FPS
1%Low -70FPS


Sleeping Dogs 1920x1080

DDR4 2933 Mhz (1467 MHz)
AVG -239.4FPS
Min -108.2FPS
1%Low -118FPS


DDR4 3866 Mhz (1933 Mhz)
AVG -243.9FPS
Min -109.6FPS
1%Low -118FPS


Video of test side by side

 
Guest2 said:
DLSS on ultra performance though. Looks disgusting
Try performance, much better looking :)
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You can say whatever you want.Do you really think I did not test every setting in the game.

Guest2 said:
Good tests to see side by side.
Have you ever tried changing from CL16 to tighter / looser timings? (CL14 / 18)
I noticed much more of a difference going to 3600Mhz CL14 than going 3800Mhz CL16. 4000 CL16 results in lower fps than what im at now (3800Mhz, CL14)
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I have tested all ram speeds from DDR4 CL10 2133Mhz-DDR4 CL14 4200Mhz. I believe whatever you say for yourself from your own testing.
I got an idea how it works with PC gaming.
 
Guest2 said:
"I believe whatever you say for yourself from your own testing. I got an idea how it works with PC gaming" What? This doesn't make sense at all :D
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OK you said
Have you ever tried changing from CL16 to tighter / looser timings? (CL14 / 18)
I noticed much more of a difference going to 3600Mhz CL14 than going 3800Mhz CL16. 4000 CL16 results in lower fps than what im at now (3800Mhz, CL14)
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I replied
I have tested all ram speeds from DDR4 CL10 2133Mhz-DDR4 CL14 4200Mhz. I believe whatever you say for yourself from your own testing.
I got an idea how it works with PC gaming.
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Meaning yes I have tested what you wrote and more. I know exactly how the DDR4 Ram works.

This is why I showed the videos side by side. Tight timings is the way to go with your Ram.Higher FCLK speeds do not matter. Trying to give people advice it is up to them to see it for what it is.
So my overall point is do not waste your money on buying newer faster Ram for Ryzen when you do not need to and tighten Ram timings the best that you can.
For the best performance and put money you save on not buying new ram towards faster GPU.

It is not for me to tell people what to do and I do not know better than anyone else,I was saying going over 1900Mhz FCLk speed is not important and tight ram timings is the way to use your ram ,instead of buying new faster ram for no performance gain.

How is that less confusing,I got more crap to say if you want to read it ;)
 
@Guest2
I showed 4 PC games at 1920x1080 with DDR4 2933Mhz vs 3866Mhz and 2 games at 2560x1440 there was no difference.

I noticed over the last couple weeks you do not read comments or look at videos. You just got your mind set on one thing.I will not respond anymore to anything you say. I am confused enough already.
 
Guest2 said:
I do indeed read comments and watch videos.
I did not mention the videos in my above comments which were about timings.
The videos did not compare timings which as above you wrote “Tight timings is the way to go with your Ram”
Instead of comparing DDR and IF speeds, why not show timing comparisons which would have been a 10 - 20fps (at a guess) difference.
Not sure what my mind is set on exactly as you put it.
The is all rather basic overclocking, not rocket science

Anyway, i'll shut up now and just provide other with useful info
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Why am I responding when I say I would not LOL ,cause I have to because I just wrote a spiel and you came back and said why don't you do this and that where if you read and looked like I said ,you would not say such things.

From the video posted on the very thing you just said.You sir should read the whole quote from the video and look at the timings from the video. I help you out.

Testing is to show that tuned memory timings are important on AMD Ryzen CPU's,even at 1920x1080 in 98% of games.Of course I can not test all games. So if you have a normal computer with normal gear than ,tuning your ram may be the best way to get great performance out of your system ,also is a good way to save some cash and put the extra towards a better CPU/GPU.

Let the nutbars shout to the rafters ,that is not how to test memory. I am not into 720p/1080p gaming and man that triggers some people.
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Sorry @Doug2507 got your question mixed up with guest post
I put this here in case Guest2 ask if I did.Answer would be yes on my part.
B-Die Ram by gerard fraser, on Flickr
 
Note: I did not test on Ryzen 5000 CPU's.We I tested for latency it was only with AIDA64 which is not reliable or terribly accurate and I did not notice a significant difference in latency and I never bothered recording latency. I find it does not mean anything at all for my computer usage. Sorry best answer I got.

EDIT;On Ryzen 5800X ,Ram is not important for me Playing PC games and I run DDR4 CL20 3600Mhz Rank 2 with no loss in performance to the best of my testing to date.
 
Dean Guile said:
Ha funny! Imagine someone ACTUALLY doing this, anyway lets get back on topic.,
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I bought 10850K and replaced my 5800X today. Done with AMD until next CPU released.Yeah ditched a golden AMD 5800X to play with a new cheap Intel CPU.
Wonder if I should go to the Intel section and ask stupid questions,not directed at anyone in particular.
 
alec said:
That was sudden. Who is going to preach Curve Optimizer across all hardware forums now?

Did you ever get it properly game stable? Or was it just benchmarks at 5175?
Asking because many of us have been hit by apparent stability at high freq only to get random crashes after system has been running for a while.
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Well it will not be me preaching anyone. Meet the new Intel fanboy going to make AMD scum like Miserable. I bought and used 7 AMD CPU's in two years,my job is done. I can not fix stupid.

Video part of 7 hr gaming session at 4 hr mark,not sure if that counts for no crash and has been running for awhile.
 
alec said:
But whats wrong? Your setup was the model child, real life advertisement to buy AMD
That Intel you got will be slower and more boring (well, simple) to overclock.
I had settings which I deemed stable. Ran tests all day, then games 2-3 hours without a single issue. Left it idle overnight, launch game next morning - 3 game crashes in 30 minutes. Reboot - stable again. Weird.
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The Idle crashes happened to me on certain settings but I tried 100's of settings ,so I could not name one. On MSI 1.1.8.0 Agesa should fix that.There is nothing wrong with me other than having a spending problem on PC gear. I literally buy bunches of everything and try it out.
SO lets say since RTX 3080 been released a couple months ago.Basically I do not care and I PC game at 4k,no difference to me in any CPU.
Bought 3 RTx 3080
At least 4 CPU's
3 or 4 NVME drives
2 sets of ram blah blah blah

Oh BTW the Intel turbo works the exact same as AMD Ryzen PBO crap. So I am at Turbo all core now .Tempetatures are the same as 5800X on multi load Cinebench but cooler in gaming.
 
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Guest2 said:
:D You did actually change back to Intel. I thought you were being sarcastic all along
Waht Intel CPU did you go for?
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LOL I named the CPU Post #531 and provided a screen shot all within the same page and a few posts. You still believe you read the posts in the threads.Got my 10850K boosting to 5400Mhz so far gaming oonly seen up to 5200Mhz. Same as the Ryzen gear.
 
LOL everyone always says that,it is normal intel CPU.I will check the internet,since I have not even used my Intel machines for years,if it is good I will post BIOS settings and make a thread just like this one.
 
Wake me up guys when you can do this with the curve lol
Mass Effect Andromeda Boost All Cores 5000Mhz

Xuan-Yuan Sword VII Boost All Cores 5050Mhz

Assassin's Creed Valhalla Boost All Cores 5075Mhz

Observer System Redux -Palatium CLUB 5100Mhz All cores

SEKIRO SHADOWS DIE TWICE -Diamond CLUB 5125Mhz All cores

Your spot here -Titanium CLUB 5150Mhz




Xuan-Yuan Sword VII Boost -Prestige CLUB 5200Mhz

 
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