5820K to Ryzen?

8 Pack · 28 Feb 2017 at 22:06

Totally pointless side step.

Wait for skylake E if you must change.

An Exception · 28 Feb 2017 at 22:15

^^^
You don't think it will be extremely expensive like 6900K & 6950x?

TechMinerUK · 28 Feb 2017 at 22:32

8 Pack said:
Totally pointless side step.
Wait for skylake E if you must change.

Point noted, would you recommend just changing motherboards after the Ryzen release then?

KingDazza · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:00

I'm confused with this thread. I thought Ryzen indications to date, but not substantiated, show Ryzen being an equivalent to X99 but for less money. So why would anyone want to do a side step? Surely you could just upgrade existing CPU but stay on same platform?

Apologies if I'm missing something as there already appear to be several pairs of knickers twisted.

An Exception · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:02

TechMinerUK said:
Point noted, would you recommend just changing motherboards after the Ryzen release then?

I would say that would be more pointless. You have gone through the trouble to switch out a motherboard, but still stuck with hot CPU that needs cooling, thus will create noise. Maybe not so much at idle, but just the same when the computer is under load.
A better CPU cooler is probably a better idea. But like I have previously said. Cooling a 65 watt TDP CPU is a lot easier than cooling a 140 watt TDP CPU. Therefore it's much easier to have a silent system, even under load.

An Exception · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:03

KingDazza said:
I'm confused with this thread. I thought Ryzen indications to date, but not substantiated, show Ryzen being an equivalent to X99 but for less money. So why would anyone want to do a side step? Surely you could just upgrade existing CPU but stay on same platform?

Apologies if I'm missing something as there already appear to be several pairs of knickers twisted.

What CPU do you suggest?

easyrider · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:11

An Exception said:
What CPU do you suggest?

There is nothing wrong with his 5820k

An Exception · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:14

easyrider said:
There is nothing wrong with his 5820k

No but he seems to dislike the noise it takes to cool it.
Having built a silent system, component choice is a large factor in lowering noise levels. But there are multiple options that have already been suggested to reduce noise. So the question becomes the lengths the op is willing to go to achieve a quiet system.

hornetstinger · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:15

An Exception said:
No but he seems to dislike the noise it takes to cool it.

Go to a AC/DC concert standing right next to the speakers, come back deaf, and you'll no longer hear the noisy computer.

Sorted.

easyrider · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:15

An Exception said:
No but he seems to dislike the noise it takes to cool it.

He's already been advised to get a fan controller...

If his pc is on his desk then move it...

Making a pc silent isn't hard.

I'm surprised this pointless thread is still going tbh.

Boot_Loop · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:22

I wouldn't wait for Skylake-E either. Full system cost for that is going to be ridiculously expensive even after Intel go in with lower prices after Ryzen's disruption of their monopoly prices.

An Exception · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:23

easyrider said:
He's already been advised to get a fan controller...

If his pc is on his desk then move it...

Making a pc silent isn't hard.

I'm surprised this pointless thread is still going tbh.

Yes. But now temperatures maybe an issue. Or if you get a smart fan controller, they can be quite expensive. Then there is the question of just as much noise under load. Is the Op ok with noise when under load. If no, he either need to get a better CPU cooler, or reduce the power consumption of his chip. That means slowing it down. If he's ok with less performance, that's an option I guess. I personally wouldn't want to go backwards, so I would look for a system that offered the same or better performance with lower power consumption.

easyrider · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:28

I've had a 5820k running silent under load

It's not hard

I suggest the op asks in the overclocking and cooling section

An Exception · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:31

Boot_Loop said:
I wouldn't wait for Skylake-E either. Full system cost for that is going to be ridiculously expensive even after Intel go in with lower prices after Ryzen's disruption of their monopoly prices.

I'm not sure if skylake E will offer much performance over Broadwell. I mean am I correct in thinking the IPC improvement of Broadwell over Haswell was 10%, but Broadwell didn't overclock as well?
I'm not sure if we are going to see much improvement on the same manufacturing process. Maybe the improved process will offer a few hundred Mhz clock speeds + 5% going from a Broadwell to Skylake architecture.

An Exception · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:31

easyrider said:
I've had a 5820k running silent under load

It's not hard

I suggest the op asks in the overclocking and cooling section

Maybe let the Op know what cooler you used.

~>Dg<~ · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:33

An Exception said:
I'm not sure if skylake E will offer much performance over Broadwell. I mean am I correct in thinking the IPC improvement of Broadwell over Haswell was 10%, but Broadwell didn't overclock as well?
I'm not sure if we are going to see much improvement on the same manufacturing process. Maybe the improved process will offer a few hundred Mhz clock speeds + 5% going from a Broadwell to Skylake architecture.

did you not read the posts already put on this page go re read digest them think about it

ubersonic · 28 Feb 2017 at 23:38

You have a hex core, the only real upgrade (if you want one) is a octocore, that means either a 6900K (£1000, or about £800 after selling current CPU) or switching to Ryzen (~£500-600 for CPU and board, or £200-300 after selling current CPU/board). If you feel you need an upgrade (and don't use >2 GFX cards) then it's entirely up to you if you want to pay an extra £500-600 just to stay with Intel.

Zeed · 1 Mar 2017 at 08:44

for me to have STABLE 4.4 i need 1.36vcore 4.5 is only benchmark stable at 1.39... Wont boot on 125 strap no matter what (had 3 different x99 motherboards) cause of that cant do more than 2666 on memories. So when u got **** chip like mine 5820k then Ryzen looks more than promising !!!

Boot_Loop · 1 Mar 2017 at 08:49

Lord_ZED said:
for me to have STABLE 4.4 i need 1.36vcore 4.5 is only benchmark stable at 1.39... Wont boot on 125 strap no matter what (had 3 different x99 motherboards) cause of that cant do more than 2666 on memories. So when u got **** chip like mine 5820k then Ryzen looks more than promising !!!

That is a pretty dud chip.

My 5820K does 4.5Ghz 24/7 using 1.23V, cooled with a ever so slightly noisey Corsair GT 110i AIO.

~>Dg<~ · 1 Mar 2017 at 08:57

is yours a pretty recent chip though or a older revision ? some like many cpus are not great ocers.mine does 4.6 24/7 fine.

and benchies for some decent games show the 6800k is faster across the board for most games than the 1700/1700x. real funny thing is most of those top titles are amd titles aswell.

GTA V DX11

Ryzen 7 1700 167fps
Ryzen 7 1700X 130fps
Core i7 7700K 190fps
Core i7 6800K 145fps

Alien: Isolation DX11

Ryzen 7 1700 163fps
Ryzen 7 1700X 194fps
Core i7 7700K 165fps
Core i7 6800K 200fps

Battlefield 4 DX12 ??? I guess it a typo so it should read as Battlefield 1

Ryzen 7 1700 94fps
Ryzen 7 1700X 111fps
Core i7 7700K 93fps
Core i7 6800K 115fps

Ashes of the Singularity DX12

Ryzen 7 1700 44fps
Ryzen 7 1700X 55fps
Core i7 7700K 44fps
Core i7 6800K 56fps

Civilization VI DX12

Ryzen 7 1700 63fps
Ryzen 7 1700X 67fps
Core i7 7700K 73fps
Core i7 6800K 79fps

DOOM Vulkan

Ryzen 7 1700 101fps
Ryzen 7 1700X 127fps
Core i7 7700K 94fps
Core i7 6800K 123fps