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6870 is here! for £170, WTF?? HELP!!

I know the number dont add up. I play games on it knowing the hardware should be a pile of junk, but i play a lot of arcade games on there. Geometry wars couldnt look any sweeter even if was running at true 4500000 x 20000 res.
 
love a bit of eye candy. rest of the normal games on there suck balls but at least they work. im still waiting for capcom to patch dead rising 2 so i can play it, my card managed it at full settings with AA supersamplling. but i cant dam play it.
 
ANYWAY, anyone recomend a good mobo for 2 x 6870s? is x8 z8 bandwidth ok or do these cards make use of more? (i assume thats how it works)
 
at the end of the day a 5870 is like £300, and ****es all over a 6870 which aint right.

It's about 10% quicker, the 6870 is the midrange and costs £100 less!

New series, should be MUCH better.

Guess what, they will be. They aren't out yet.

Ill bet a lot of people buy these cards without looking at the specs cos they think they know the well grounded system. What theyre really getting is what we'd expect a 6770 to be like, shame on AMD for taking the unwise peoples money!

Well whose fault is that? Ignorance is easily cured by doing a little research, if you're capable of buying and installing a card then you can always Google '6870 review'.

Also, please stop posting 4 or 5 times in a row, there is an edit button for a reason.
 
It's about 10% quicker, the 6870 is the midrange and costs £100 less!

10% 20% 10000% its still quicker.

Guess what, they will be. They aren't out yet.

yeah but they are thats my point - the new 5870 should be the newer better version, its just complicating things.

Well whose fault is that? Ignorance is easily cured by doing a little research, if you're capable of buying and installing a card then you can always Google '6870 review'.

I agree, we obviously do but ill bet the large majority dont. Im not fussed i know what it can do, but most people just wanna buy what looks good and get on with it.

Also, please stop posting 4 or 5 times in a row, there is an edit button for a reason.

Sorry im new to the forum, if you wouldnt mind explaining how i can click quote and repl to all comments ill be sure not to rattle your shakey boat again lol
 
is tht what the multi thing is for? i just put all my words in one quote box.... argm noob alert
 
(1) How cheap can you get a xfire board which has TWO x16 lanes?
(2) Are certain cards better for crossfire like the 6870?
(3) I see my GFX card supports Pci Express 2.1, is it worth gettin a board that supports that or is it useless?

  1. 2nd hand X38s start about £35. P45s in good condition a bit more. P45s have 2x 16 pcie1, not pcie2. The difference in performance for a 480GTX class of card between 16 Pcie1 and 16 Pcie2 is about 2%.
  2. Yes and no. 460s are good in SLI. People are saying 6870s are better in crossfire than 5850s. I'm not seeing this in benches tbh. 2% more again on average frame rates [on top of the 7-9% single card gains], if that.
  3. I've just had to go to wikipedia. Never seen mention of pcie 2.0 vs 2.1 Which suggests a non issue from a buyers perspective.
    wikipedia said:
    PCI Express 2.1 supports a large proportion of the management, support, and troubleshooting systems planned to be fully implemented in PCI Express 3.0. However, the speed is the same as PCI Express 2.0. Most motherboards sold currently come with PCI Express 2.0 connectors.
 
Ok guys so i'm guessing im not the only one who saw the recent release of the 5870 and 5850 and thought OMG, why so cheap??

Cant believe what amd have done with the names its retarded. I was going to buy a 5850 for £200 and the 6870 performs about the same (if not worse) but im happy with saving the £30 odd, what a bargain even if it should be twice the power with that name.

Has AMDs choice annoyed anyone else? I feel like ive been lied too... :confused:

ANYWAY onto my question... Im building a new PC soon so have a few questions :p

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Ive never had crossfire or sli before because never saw the sense in spending all that extra money when its more cost effective to just buy single card (pumping the money saved from the mobo AND a second card into one). BUT it sounds fun, and i may want it if you guys can help me into the dual world of money wasting.

(1) How cheap can you get a xfire board which has TWO x16 lanes? To me it seems an awfull waste to buy a £200 card, then to have it running at a half or even quarter of its speed... am i wrong to think like this?
-im looking at getting an Asus M4A785TD-V EVO 785G Socket AM3, looks well cheap for 70 quid but the second port runs at x4 mode.

(2) Are certain cards better for crossfire like the 6870?

(3) I see my GFX card supports Pci Express 2.1, is it worth gettin a board that supports that or is it useless?


THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!! :D

Why do you feel like you've been lied to?

I don't get why people can't grasp different number, different card? Read up on it to make sure its what you want BEFORE dropping your money, anything else is retarded if you ask me.....:confused:
 
Not exactly lied to - but 8xx has been the high end set of cards for several generations now, 7xx mid-range and so on so you can see how people are confused... I can't believe how many people are trying to gloss over it when AMD do it - yet when nVidia did it everyone was up in arms.

Show me where the 6870 is the same card as the 5870 and I'll agree they are the same as Nvidia, if not STFU as its nothing like.
 
How have you been lied to, it was made quite evident that it's the mid range card.

They're good cards, will be a massive upgrade to your current one.

How is it obvious unless you read in in-depth reviews and study the technical details?

You are forgetting most people just buy hardware at price points that they recognize the name.
 
How is it obvious unless you read in in-depth reviews and study the technical details?

You are forgetting most people just buy hardware at price points that they recognize the name.

Most people who buy at that price point do not just walk in & buy without knowing some what of what they are buying & will not be disappoints if the ATI card they had bought before was at the same price point.
There is some assumption at times with new numbers means new arc & features & that must not be played on which NV has clearly done in that past.
 
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Actually you could argue that they did this with the HD2900XT - but then with that generation there wasn't really any "mid-range", unless you count the HD2900 Pro as that.
 
Actually you could argue that they did this with the HD2900XT - but then with that generation there wasn't really any "mid-range", unless you count the HD2900 Pro as that.

If you mean 2900 - 3870 ?

2900 DX10 - 3870 DX10.1
 
Is there annyone here that can recommend me a good crossfire mobo here? preferably with usb 3, dual x16 lanes... or dual x8 lanes i suppose may be good enough although id feel i was wasting w bit of the cards power if i did that i guess
 
We haven't seen whats gonna happen with the 6770 yet so I wouldn't get too high and mighty on that point.

Why do you post things like the one below then?

Not exactly lied to - but 8xx has been the high end set of cards for several generations now, 7xx mid-range and so on so you can see how people are confused... I can't believe how many people are trying to gloss over it when AMD do it - yet when nVidia did it everyone was up in arms.

Are you another person who can't understand what would happen if AMD (not ATI!) would release these cards as 6750/70 at $179/$239 price points? I can imagine the moaning about it now. You really should stop crapping on AMD Rroff, it's getting boring and annoying.
 
What pci are you are on at the moment, my board is having issues because it is on 1.1, it does not detect the card sometimes on cold boot and the fan goes to 100%.
 
I did'nt want to start a new thread so ill post this here.

I skipped the 5xxx and g2xx generation to wait for the next, before upgrading from my 4850. Its what I usually do.

Is it worth going after a 6850 or 460 from 4850? I skipped out on 5830 because it seemed like poor upgrqade from 4850
 
Why do you post things like the one below then?



Are you another person who can't understand what would happen if AMD (not ATI!) would release these cards as 6750/70 at $179/$239 price points? I can imagine the moaning about it now. You really should stop crapping on AMD Rroff, it's getting boring and annoying.

You really need to stop defending ATI, there naming scheme is a joke of the latest cards, it is under hand and if Nvidia today brought out a range of cards called the GTX 580/570 that was marginal/slower than the GTX480/470 most ATI zealots heads on here would explode.

Oh and on a seperate not i find you very annoying and very condisending. You are arrogant.

I can not take your pro ATI abuse no more. Do not bother to reply as i am putting you on ignore.
 
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