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7700K VS Zen 1700/1800X For gaming??

Personally if Ryzen is a good clocker, and performs like below. I would much rather a slightly lower clocked 8 core over a higher clocked 7700K.
Sure 4 cores are primarily only used in games, but you won't have to worry about background app/tasks stealing CPU cycles, as you effectively have spare cores to deal with that stuff.
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Below was posted on another OC forum. He didn't provide source for the below.

"Dota 2 streaming with OBS live demo; SMT and XFR enabled* (1700 vs. 7700K):

The Ryzen chip didn't drop frames, while the Core i7 chip did.

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 (QS) → 93–94 fps
Intel Core i7-7700K → 87–88 fps"
 
That's multi-threaded loads in the article, From what I've seen it's single thread performance is Haswell at best.
Yes, apparently it's the hyper threading that works better on Ryzen. Which should also translate to games as they are multi-threaded, even if they don't use more than 4 physical cores for the most part.
 
What a difference a day makes. Ryzen is looking pretty awesome, the R7 1700 chip is priced very close to the 7700K but seems to outperform it well. Looks like this will be my next chip then. If these overclock well could be an absolute banger xD
 
What a difference a day makes. Ryzen is looking pretty awesome, the R7 1700 chip is priced very close to the 7700K but seems to outperform it well. Looks like this will be my next chip then. If these overclock well could be an absolute banger xD


Well I'm still waiting on reviews, but what I've seen of the leaks so far has really shocked me. I never thought Ryzen was going to be competitive, never mind beat Intels X99 CPU's.
I do more than game so 8 cores would be very useful. Currently on a 6700k, but moving to a 7700k is pointless. X99 is practically EOL and far too expensive. Something like a x1800/x1700 looks like it might tick all the boxes, especially if it outperforms X99 at half the price.
 
I'm mostly interested in gaming performance - Witcher/BF et al - not seen anything yet that suggests a Ryzen of any level can rinse a 7700k o'cd to 4.8+
If one does, and for less, then I'm in, my 2500k has had it's day.
 
1700 still looking very tempting at the moment, very curious to see how the 6c/12t chips perform though, especially if they clock a little better. Might be a nice little price/perf upgrade for a couple of years before grabbing the next gen at hopefully better clocks again, knowing it should just be a straight drop in upgrade on AM4.
 
What does it matter if single thread performance is slightly better on an 7700k, i mean 1fps better in a game, cos basically from what we've seen that's all it will be on an 7700k. It will be minimal, yet some of you guys would still choose a 7700k over an 8 core chip, which is basically the same price, for 1/2fps tops...Do you guys realise how ridiculous and petty that sounds. Maybe you're brainwashed by how dominant Intel have been over the last decade and thats all you know. Its an octo core offering practically the same performance in gaming, think about it.
 
What does it matter if single thread performance is slightly better on an 7700k, i mean 1fps better in a game, cos basically from what we've seen that's all it will be on an 7700k. It will be minimal, yet some of you guys would still choose a 7700k over an 8 core chip, which is basically the same price, for 1/2fps tops...Do you guys realise how ridiculous and petty that sounds. Maybe you're brainwashed by how dominant Intel have been over the last decade and thats all you know. Its an octo core offering practically the same performance in gaming, think about it.


where did you get 1/2fps from? Please link some consumer benchmarks, oh wait........
 
What does it matter if single thread performance is slightly better on an 7700k, i mean 1fps better in a game, cos basically from what we've seen that's all it will be on an 7700k. It will be minimal, yet some of you guys would still choose a 7700k over an 8 core chip, which is basically the same price, for 1/2fps tops...Do you guys realise how ridiculous and petty that sounds. Maybe you're brainwashed by how dominant Intel have been over the last decade and thats all you know. Its an octo core offering practically the same performance in gaming, think about it.

Don't follow this thread but from what I see nothing is proven yet. If it's really as good as it appears Intel will drop their prices. As AMD often aim for lower priced segment that often means compromise in some form so I'd wait until both official reviews are out and also some respected forum members are using them and comparing them.
While some may appear brain washed, others are maybe over excited by the hype and the fact that something different is coming.At this point many are bored with Intel offerings and wouldn't be surprised if people by Ryzen regardess which is no bad thing as we could do with more competition. I'm hoping it's pretty good and may consider an 8 core for a side project I need to do.
 
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