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7700K VS Zen 1700/1800X For gaming??

Can't be true surely?

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http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-1700x-benchmarks-leaked-beats-kaby-lake-ipc/
Even if true that's one cherry picked 1700x which won't hold a candle to a cherry picked 7700k @5.5ghz!
 
No idea why you'd replace a 6700k unless you have specific use for the extra cores.

New toys to play with and I personally have always had 6 core machines intels but when my last 1 died 2nd rampage black edition board to die on me I gave up spending big bucks when gpu is the main focus.
 
i excpect the Ryzen 1400X to be the direct competitor of the i7 7700, with 4cores and 8 threads, AMD will be able to push clock much higher probably with base clock around 4Ghz and a boost at 4.5Ghz, the IPC will much more in line with the 7700, and cost about half.
comparing to an 8 core / 16 thread on single thread isn't fair, the R7 cannot push the clock as high as the R3 or R5 SKUs
 
Even if true that's one cherry picked 1700x which won't hold a candle to a cherry picked 7700k @5.5ghz!
You didn't read the article then? There was no 1700X running at 4.5Ghz, they extrapolated upwards from results at a much lower clock speed.
 
i excpect the Ryzen 1400X to be the direct competitor of the i7 7700, with 4cores and 8 threads, AMD will be able to push clock much higher probably with base clock around 4Ghz and a boost at 4.5Ghz
The leaked spreadsheets etc have proven to be nicely accurate so far and they all put 1400X firmly as a 3.x GHz chip
 
If you guys are believing all these pre nda benchmarks to be legit, or more to the point a proper representation of kaby vs ryzen then you're dreaming. Wait till the start of the month for proper 3rd party comparisons, and more importantly, gaming.
 
Even if true that's one cherry picked 1700x which won't hold a candle to a cherry picked 7700k @5.5ghz!
neither will the i7 7700 hold against Ryzen 1400X around 4.5Ghz+, the true competitor of the i7 7700 is a Ryzen low end 4core/8thread, when they have enough cores disabled to push the clock further
 
A glimpse of the gaming performance of the 1800X.
It seems Ryzen is around 7% faster in this game than a 6900k. Does anyone know roughly how much faster a 7700k is in such a scenario?


 
If I had to go for an Intel CPU now, I'd go for the cheaper 7600k and bide my time. Intel's 4c + HT chips have been way over priced for years for lack of competition. Their 4 core lineup looks awfully expensive all of a sudden. The only advantage Intel have now is pure clock speed. There's still value in Intel's high clocked 4 core CPUs, but HEDT is dead meat.
 
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-02.../#diagramm-battlefield-1-dx11-multiplayer-fps

Posted this in the other thread, 6/8/10 core Broadwell-e beating the 7700k in almost every single game at cpu limited settings. Single thread being king of gaming is basically over. The one game 7700k wins(I cba'd to click through every result again, all the games are under the drop down menu) is Witcher 3 by a tiny amount where as the 6/8/10 core often beat the 7700k by more significant and sometimes very large amounts.

Single thread performance is not bad to have for older games, but then Zen is no slouch at 4Ghz(let alone more) for those games which are older and mostly will run brilliantly on Zen anyway. Going forwards, more cores does in fact beat single thread performance. Zen is close enough in IPC and with higher enough clock speeds but with so many more cores for the same price or even less that it will beat the 7700k in more new games than it loses and the gaps in those games will favour a 6 or 8 core.
 
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