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7850 to 660Ti - Weird situation

WoT is shoddy as hell since the 0.8.0 update, I am not blaming that on ATi.

I said and I will say again..... MY CARD MAY HAVE BEEN FAULTY.

The only way I could reliably reproduce the artifacts was with MSi Kombustor - Furry and Tessy

My 660ti runs it perfectly
 
spixelspixel said:
He said nvidia is a better product, not going to agree or disagree with him but one thing I have noticed from browsing ocuk forums for a while is that there seems to be a lot more amd cards which artifact/are faulty out of the box than nvidia cards.

That graph is 2560, which the 660 ti see's a performance decrease at.

http://www.techspot.com/review/565-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti/page8.html - I love conflicting reviews!
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The review you just posted backs up my review and does not conflict at all. My review has all the cards overclocked where the 7950 gains the most from this. At 1080p and 1600p the 7950 is faster with stock clocks in the witcher 2.
 
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TheRealDeal said:
The review you just posted backs up my review and does not conflict at all. My review has all the cards overclocked where the 7950 gains the most from this. At 1080p and 1600p the 7950 is faster with stock clocks.
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But were talking about stock vs stock here, where the 660ti is very close to the 7950 on witcher 2. Link I posted doesn't back anything up, just shows that the massive performance difference in your link between the 2 cards isn't typical.

http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1347230558HzykKUAYB0_8_5_l.jpg
 
spixelspixel said:
But were talking about stock vs stock here, where the 660ti is very close to the 7950 on witcher 2. Link I posted doesn't back anything up, just shows that the massive performance difference in your link between the 2 cards isn't typical.

http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1347230558HzykKUAYB0_8_5_l.jpg
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It will be common though as that link has a 7950 with a core speed of 900 v a 660 ti with a boost clock of 1225 and its still slower. You can be sure in good hands the 7950 overclocked to average clocks off around 1100 will stomp all over any ti660oc in the witcher 2.
 
The Ti 660 is an amazing card. I can't believe how small it is.
The only thing I have had smaller is my 7900 gs lol
 
TheRealDeal said:
It will be common though as that link has a 7950 with a core speed of 900 v a 660 ti with a boost clock of 1225 and its still slower. You can be sure in good hands the 7950 overclocked to average clocks off around 1100 will stomp all over any ti660oc in the witcher 2.
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Core speed is irrelevant, doesn't matter how the card achieves its performance. Try putting a 7950 to 1225 on stock voltage and see how it works out :P Sure overclock vs overclock it will probably stomp the 660ti but not as much at 1920 as its well known the 660 ti sees a performance drop at higher resolutions.
 
SkodaMart said:
The Ti 660 is an amazing card. I can't believe how small it is.
The only thing I have had smaller is my 7900 gs lol
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Yea i seen a post on hear with a guy putting a accelero cooler on a gtx670 and it looked all wrong as the actual pcb was tiny compared with the cooler.

spixelspixel said:
Core speed is irrelevant, doesn't matter how the card achieves its performance. Try putting a 7950 to 1225 on stock voltage and see how it works out :P Sure overclock vs overclock it will probably stomp the 660ti but not as much at 1920 as its well known the 660 ti sees a performance drop at higher resolutions.
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I reckon it would still be in the region of 20% faster at 1080p which is still a lot. Its 30% faster on the 1600p oc benchmark i posted.
 
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ptneps said:
If you want permanent 60+ fps just stump up the extra for a 7970 ghz edition or a 670. 7950's will still drop below 60 unless you get a good overclocker which is always a gamble. I'm sure LtMatt said he still gets drops into the 50's.
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tommybhoy said:
I didn't, simply trying to save you needless headaches, hence the recommendation of using an injector-it can look almost the same as MSAA while costing a big fat zero.

As stated above, 7970/680's can drop to ~50fps in places, so I don't see any lesser gpu hitting mins of 60fps.



Matts using a 7970@1200Mhz.
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Yep if you're looking for the best possible performance in bf3 with 4xaa you need a well clocked 7970/680. Even with these powerful cards you will see dips below 60, bf3's deferred rendering is simply a performance killer.

Although i do see dips into the 50's, this is worst case scenario. With a lot going on, on screen explosions, tanks blowing up close up, or looking across the biggest map of bf3 bandar desert.

For the most part though i see my fps in the region of 60-130fps depending on the map.

AMD continues to add an extra 3-5% performance with each driver, hoping that this can continue and the minimum will one day become 60+.

With all that said and done though, fps dropping below 60 still feels perfectly smooth, enough to make me believe that you can run full ultra (that means x4 AA) acceptably on a well clocked 7950/670. :)
 
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SkodaMart said:
Before anyone jumps in and says the HD 7950 is also a great overclocker, mine was artifacting at stock.
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Which confirms the card was broken. GPU's do not artifact at stock unless they are broken, think about it ;)

Glad your happy with your GTX 660ti, but it seems to me your a through and through Nvidia guy anyway.... And nothing wrong with that, good for you. :)

Yet you still payed more money for less performance, hell on average with a balanced selection of games my 7870 is just as fast as your GTX 660Ti
 
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Well, I've just been playing world of tanks, the maps that were buggy with the ATi card, 20fps! Highway and Mines are now working fine 40-60 fps with vsync on.
 
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'Well, I've just been playing world of tanks, the maps that were buggy with my gubbed ATi card, 20fps! Highway and Mines are now working fine 40-60 fps with vsync on.'
 
Most maps with my ATi card were 60 fps.
Yes Wot is a CPU bound game. It uses ONE core.
I have an i3 2120 therfore my CPU is as good as most.

Highway, Mines and SouthCoast were as buggy as hell with the HD 7950.

The other maps played perfectly, this to me means bad card or bad drivers.

These problems have been instantly fixed with my 660Ti
The long and short of it is in the real world the 660 Ti is a better product than the HD 7950
 
The Witcher 2 plays better with the nVidia card.
I get higher scores in Heaven 3.0 with the nVidia card.

This is all at stock, not overclocked at 1080p
 
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Richeh said:
Thank you but think you missed a large aspect of my requirements.

I will see if my friend wants to save a few £££ and offer him my 7850, if he takes it I will stump the extra £80ish on a 7950 and OC. But will I expect 60fps w/MSAA now thanks to you guys! ;)
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erm your offerign him a card he can get for *( maybe not same brand ) card he can get for teh price new .. which will have full warranty
 
tommybhoy said:
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gubbed '
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And how the hell do you prove a card is gubbed to send it back for warranty when it will run most benchmarks perfectly?

Either the drivers, the card or whatever were gubbed

The problem has gone away but putting the green team back in my case.
I am all for value for money, hence my user name!

However 'cheap' is useless if it doesn't work as well! :rolleyes:
 
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