8 PACK MEMORY RANGE GROWING: SAY HELLO TO 8 PACK RIPPED EDITION & 32GB KITS!!!

Not sure how far to go down the memory overclocking rabbit hole :)

I have a new 3800X, and 16gb of the 8-Pack "ripped" 3600 C14 RAM.

The XMP profile gave me a score in DRAM calc of 354.68

Then I just applied some timings based on formulae I saw online:
tRC = tRAS + tRP = (50)
tRFC = 8(tRC) + 8 = (408)
Tfaw = 4(tRRDS) = (24)

That took the score down to 257.91.

Any other "easy win" suggestions, please? :P
 
@Slinky69

The below might take about 20-30 minutes but it should net you easy performance.

Step 1: Taiphoon to obtain XMP profile

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cw3cn0/psa_use_thaiphoon_to_exportimport_your_xmp/

You can stop at step 4 of the reddit thread above. Once you do step 4 can you upload that profile via google drive or mega file sharing etc and link it here? I'm compiling a list of profiles for DRAM Calc for a spreadsheet. I have most decent kits (3600C15, 3600C16 G. Skill, Patriot Viper). The only one I need now is the Ripped.

Step 2: DRAM Calc - https://www.techpowerup.com/download/ryzen-dram-calculator/

Set memory type to Samsung B-Die
Memory Rank to 1
Frequency 3600
DIMM modules 2

Now click Import XMP and choose the file from step 1 then press the Safe button.

You should now see something like this: https://i.imgur.com/pO1tXYF.png

Step 3: Input the values into BIOS :D

Step 4: ????????

Step 5: PROFIT!
 
Sorry for the noob questions.

For a 5900X, RTX3080, MSI B550 Tomahawk build, I’ve been looking at these 8pack 32GB ram kits.

I won’t be overclocking this system (am I on the wrong forum?!)...and AMD says it only supports 3200mhz RAM.

So I am wondering if I am better off with the 3200mhz C14 kit (currently in stock), or 3600mhz kit, which is more £ and out of stock?

Any advice appreciated, I’m leaning towards the 3200mhz C14 kit currently.

Main use will be some Visual Studio and VR flight sims (DCS etc).
 
GregI said:
@Slinky69

The below might take about 20-30 minutes but it should net you easy performance.

Step 1: Taiphoon to obtain XMP profile

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cw3cn0/psa_use_thaiphoon_to_exportimport_your_xmp/

You can stop at step 4 of the reddit thread above. Once you do step 4 can you upload that profile via google drive or mega file sharing etc and link it here? I'm compiling a list of profiles for DRAM Calc for a spreadsheet. I have most decent kits (3600C15, 3600C16 G. Skill, Patriot Viper). The only one I need now is the Ripped.

Step 2: DRAM Calc - https://www.techpowerup.com/download/ryzen-dram-calculator/

Set memory type to Samsung B-Die
Memory Rank to 1
Frequency 3600
DIMM modules 2

Now click Import XMP and choose the file from step 1 then press the Safe button.

You should now see something like this: https://i.imgur.com/pO1tXYF.png

Step 3: Input the values into BIOS :D

Step 4: ????????

Step 5: PROFIT!
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Thanks again.

I have uploaded the Thaiphoon profile here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ir8L_UTA60SnxVRkCF0fy_3T7jDgwH4I/view?usp=sharing

Hope it proves useful :)
 
GregI said:
@Slinky69

The below might take about 20-30 minutes but it should net you easy performance.

Step 1: Taiphoon to obtain XMP profile

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cw3cn0/psa_use_thaiphoon_to_exportimport_your_xmp/

You can stop at step 4 of the reddit thread above. Once you do step 4 can you upload that profile via google drive or mega file sharing etc and link it here? I'm compiling a list of profiles for DRAM Calc for a spreadsheet. I have most decent kits (3600C15, 3600C16 G. Skill, Patriot Viper). The only one I need now is the Ripped.

Step 2: DRAM Calc - https://www.techpowerup.com/download/ryzen-dram-calculator/

Set memory type to Samsung B-Die
Memory Rank to 1
Frequency 3600
DIMM modules 2

Now click Import XMP and choose the file from step 1 then press the Safe button.

You should now see something like this: https://i.imgur.com/pO1tXYF.png

Step 3: Input the values into BIOS :D

Step 4: ????????

Step 5: PROFIT!
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Just wanted to say thanks again, I followed these steps and gained 3% in my Superposition 1440p score. I consider that enough to tick the "memory overclocking" box for now, I may move on and see what I can do with the CPU :)
 
Slinky69 said:
Just wanted to say thanks again, I followed these steps and gained 3% in my Superposition 1440p score. I consider that enough to tick the "memory overclocking" box for now, I may move on and see what I can do with the CPU :)
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Just curious did you keep the 1.45 voltage or go down to 1.35 as it stated? I was thinking to myself that the safe settings at 1.35v was asking a lot.

If you want to tinker further you can press the Fast button. You will notice that tRFC goes down by a lot as does tWR. You should be able to use every setting here besides Geardown mode being disabled. This is very hard to do and isn't necessarily a RAM problem.
 
GregI said:
Just curious did you keep the 1.45 voltage or go down to 1.35 as it stated? I was thinking to myself that the safe settings at 1.35v was asking a lot.

If you want to tinker further you can press the Fast button. You will notice that tRFC goes down by a lot as does tWR. You should be able to use every setting here besides Geardown mode being disabled. This is very hard to do and isn't necessarily a RAM problem.
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It wouldn't boot at 1.35, the Motherboard said "no" - I went to the "Max" setting of 1.4 and that seemed okay.

I may try the Fast settings when I have a bit of spare time.
 
Slinky69 said:
It wouldn't boot at 1.35, the Motherboard said "no" - I went to the "Max" setting of 1.4 and that seemed okay.

I may try the Fast settings when I have a bit of spare time.
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Yeah the 1.4v makes way more sense. That's still really good.

I forgot to say and for anyone else reading this wanting to try the same, make sure to do adequate stability testing for 2 hours or so. At the bare minimum memtest86 for this. In your case the RAM will most likely be stable at 1.40v especially when gear down mode is on but I would highly recommend thorough testing for Fast.
 
GregI said:
@Slinky69

The below might take about 20-30 minutes but it should net you easy performance.

Step 1: Taiphoon to obtain XMP profile

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cw3cn0/psa_use_thaiphoon_to_exportimport_your_xmp/

You can stop at step 4 of the reddit thread above. Once you do step 4 can you upload that profile via google drive or mega file sharing etc and link it here? I'm compiling a list of profiles for DRAM Calc for a spreadsheet. I have most decent kits (3600C15, 3600C16 G. Skill, Patriot Viper). The only one I need now is the Ripped.

Step 2: DRAM Calc - https://www.techpowerup.com/download/ryzen-dram-calculator/

Set memory type to Samsung B-Die
Memory Rank to 1
Frequency 3600
DIMM modules 2

Now click Import XMP and choose the file from step 1 then press the Safe button.

You should now see something like this: https://i.imgur.com/pO1tXYF.png

Step 3: Input the values into BIOS :D

Step 4: ????????

Step 5: PROFIT!
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Nice guide, thanks for sharing.
 
Guest2 said:
How tall are these as I have a Noctua NH-U14 S HSF and dont really want the RAM inside the fan! (or covering it)

Team Group RIPPED Edition 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C14 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/
CAS 14-15-15-35 Timings 1.40-1.50v VDIMM Samsung B-Die

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...3600mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-001-8p.html
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With a 1.5mm Allen Key you can take the black section off the top, which reduces the height significantly. I had to do so to get my Arctic Liquid Freezer II in above the RAM.
 
Slinky69 said:
With a 1.5mm Allen Key you can take the black section off the top, which reduces the height significantly. I had to do so to get my Arctic Liquid Freezer II in above the RAM.
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Which mobo? I've just bought an MSI X570 Tomahawk to start a new build, and I already have the Arctic Liquid Freezer II, but not bought memory yet... Better to avoid this memory due to the clearance challenge?
 
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