970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating

Squink · 24 Jan 2015 at 12:34

james.miller said:
oh, that was very recent! wasnt aware two people decided to sue apple in relation to the iPhone 6. Good luck to them!

Yeah and it only takes a little sniff of possible success before two people become 20000 and the donations roll in for the legal fees.

eyetrip · 24 Jan 2015 at 12:35

Well, gave Inquisition a go at 4K and maxed.

Got up to just over 3.7GB usage. While frame rate counter stayed around 30fps, it was a stuttery mess.

Anyway, that's all my testing for today. Will just wait and see what develops now.

Mei · 24 Jan 2015 at 12:40

1st world problems!
they dont care their device was made under slave labour conditions but they do care it has less space than advertised to store pictures of their over weight cat being breaded

eyetrip · 24 Jan 2015 at 12:46

Mei said:
1st world problems!
they dont care their device was made under slave labour conditions but they do care it has less space than advertised to store pictures of their over weight cat being breaded

Do you care where your gpu was made?

How about your monitor, other peripherals, ram, etc?

Why are you in here? Do you own a 970?

Squink · 24 Jan 2015 at 12:48

Mei said:
1st world problems!

Everyone has problems. Dismissing other people's gripes as "1st World Problems" is so terribly, terribly liberal left. There's always someone worse off than you, but it doesn't mean you've got to feel guilty when something is less than perfect in your life.

Mei · 24 Jan 2015 at 12:51

eyetrip said:
Do you care where your gpu was made?

How about your monitor, other peripherals, ram, etc?

Why are you in here? Do you own a 970?

my gpu dont advertise that they are made under fair working conditions, apple do
am i not allowed to be here?

eyetrip · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:05

Mei said:
am i not allowed to be here?

I didn't say you weren't.

I asked why you were.

Belittling peoples concerns suggesting they are "first world problems"...

It stinks of trolling more than contributing. So, are you in here to troll?

If the moaning bothers you, again, why are you in here?

garyfl · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:06

uh oh ?

Mei · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:14

eyetrip said:
I didn't say you weren't.

I asked why you were.

Belittling peoples concerns suggesting they are "first world problems"...

It stinks of trolling more than contributing. So, are you in here to troll?

If the moaning bothers you, again, why are you in here?

*sniff* lol
calm yur balls
i wasnt talking about ur vram issues!
wow you guys get angry fast!!

eyetrip · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:16

I'm not angry

My first stress free day for a couple weeks, am actually quite sedate

Mei · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:22

i duno ur pretty scary!
i think id hide all sharp things with u about ><

Kaapstad · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:23

I think this is all getting out of hand

If I needed a GPU today I would have no problem with buying a GTX 970.

Anyone else feel the same way.

eyetrip · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:23

My other half says the same thing sometimes too - including hiding sharp objects

Wizzfizz · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:24

Kaapstad said:
I think this is all getting out of hand

If I needed a GPU today I would have no problem with buying a GTX 970.

Anyone else feel the same way.

As long as it was coil whine free

eyetrip · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:24

Kaapstad said:
I think this is all getting out of hand

If I needed a GPU today I would have no problem with buying a GTX 970.

Anyone else feel the same way.

Nope - I was about to buy a third then read about all this.

queamin · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:32

Not sure if it has been said I wonder if it is something to do with maxing out bandwidth or close to it and then not be able to get access to the cut down smm's straight away as the bandwidth is maxing out it slows down.

ALXAndy · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:32

Don't get me wrong, I like Nvidia and all (well, I like their drivers, that's about where it stops) but why would you knowingly buy a faulty product?

What I find odd is that the 970 is supposedly the same exact spec as the 980 with a slightly cut down core, correct? If so then why is the 970 broken yet the 980 is fine?

I'll stick my neck out for now and say it's a driver issue.

fenchu · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:38

Kaapstad said:
I think this is all getting out of hand

If I needed a GPU today I would have no problem with buying a GTX 970.

Anyone else feel the same way.

nope sold my sli msi gtx970 for a galax soc gtx980 best thing i done. Noticed some guy in shop today buying asus 970 wanted to warn him but dident seem fair to.

ALXAndy said:
I'll stick my neck out for now and say it's a driver issue.

dont believe that for a second , i believe its by design nvidea 970 is so slow with regards to bw on the last 512mb / more. Just turns the card into a stutter fest as it constantly loading to vram etc. Lets not forget nvidea have actually done this before.

whats worse is they could have been honest about this because like myself people would have bought 2 970s or even 3 thinking they can power higher resulotuions but cant because there effectivly gimped by the vram bw issue.

Orangey · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:39

What Huddy could do with this story...

fs123 · 24 Jan 2015 at 13:42

Here's something interesting which kind of confirms that this issue is real and will affect any games/programs that use more than 3GB.

I tested with MSI Kombuster 3 (GPU Memory Burner) which loads up the memory and runs a 3D MSI logo.

The test loads in about 1 second if the memory selected is 1024md or 2048mb but when you choose 3073mb the program seems to try to use all available memory and actually takes quite a while (over 1 minute) before the MSI logo appears and even then it stutters for a bit like as if something is loading in from swap memory.

This is almost certainly to do with the current bandwidth issue. If you try to load ay other graphic program while that is running the MSI logo starts stuttering and comes down to a crawl or freezes for ages.