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970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating

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Bonjour said:
It's just Gigabyte trying to weasel out of giving refunds on the cards by peddling Nvidia's response and figures.
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Yes... hopefully when they catch on that so many other AIBs are allowing returns they will also.

But... I'm not buying Gigabyte again... or Asus, who seem to be the only other one causing a problem.

Typically... my two cards are Gigabyte G1 and Asus Strix... lol

Oh well... I have 2x EVGA ACX2 Superclocked 980s on backorder.
 
Tonester0011 said:
Never understood that. If you're buying a card based on 'specs' alone, why in gods name would you get a 970 or 980, the 290(X) cards have better specs. However, they perform for the most part worse.

You buy a card for the performance, and features. Specs are irrelevant without a performance graph.
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Hi,
The GTX 9xx series require less power. When searching for PSU, i got a nice deal from a good brand. I don't pretend to go for SLI or Crossfire. The 9xx series are "brand new" compared to the 290x (the 290x has a great performance and price(at least now)). I had more trust on nVidia than AMD. I already had AMD and had no problems. It was all this things plus the specs on the 980 and 970 that made me buy one. For now i will stick with nVidia but when AMD releases something good, i will see what i will do, as i lost some trust on nVidia because the way they are dealing with this.
 
I keep reading that one 970 is fine, but if you have 970 SLI then it's more of an issue. Is this referring to 1440p / 4k, or 1080p also?

I've decided to stick to 1080p, keeping my single card, going for a G-Sync 144hz monitor.

So, from the monitor purchase I would look to pick up a second card for boosting the frame rates to 100+ to hit the refresh rate...... but is this shot with the current 970 SLI config?

I assume this will eventually be sorted with drivers/profiles?
 
Bonjour said:
It's just Gigabyte trying to weasel out of giving refunds on the cards by peddling Nvidia's response and figures.
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This is maddening, bought a Gigabyte graphics card last week on the recommendation that they have gotten better over the last few years. Due to them treading water over this issue I want to return the card and go for a different AIB, but on the other hand don't want to further cost Overclocker's with the return / possible b-grade item loss.

wartris
 
crinkleshoes said:
It would be nice if people would stop posting the crap, it only shows you don't even know what the issue is...

The frame rate hit isn't that great, it's the stuttering that's maddening.

As vram usage increases over the coming months/years... the stuttering will only worsen.
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whats crap about it ?

it shows that the fps is fine. stuttering i dont get .

my performance is good. im only at 1080. also single card. sli/crossfire also adds to issues with stutter.

by the time you need the vram over what a 970 has the card will be obsolete anyway. so will a 290.

just remember at the res of 1080/1440 in proper optimized games no buggy mess from ubisoft and the like. its fine.

i know roughly about games coming for next year. guess what a 970s fine.

funny thing is Battlefield Hardline for eg next new fps actually runs even better on a 970 than a 290 :p must be that vram limit.
 
Andy__C said:
I keep reading that one 970 is fine, but if you have 970 SLI then it's more of an issue. Is this referring to 1440p / 4k, or 1080p also?

I've decided to stick to 1080p, keeping my single card, going for a G-Sync 144hz monitor.

So, from the monitor purchase I would look to pick up a second card for boosting the frame rates to 100+ to hit the refresh rate...... but is this shot with the current 970 SLI config?

I assume this will eventually be sorted with drivers/profiles?
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Well I had issues at 1080p and 1440p in SLI, much less prominent on a single card but that will change as vram usage increases in games despite turning down settings.

At 1080p on a g-sync monitor I would stick with one 970, I would suspect that by the time it starts to struggle with games two 970’s will be the same, although for different reasons.

As for drivers, on the whole their drivers have been poor at best recently, although I would expect them to improve the issue, while never being able to truly fix it.
 
Andy__C said:
I keep reading that one 970 is fine, but if you have 970 SLI then it's more of an issue. Is this referring to 1440p / 4k, or 1080p also?

I've decided to stick to 1080p, keeping my single card, going for a G-Sync 144hz monitor.

So, from the monitor purchase I would look to pick up a second card for boosting the frame rates to 100+ to hit the refresh rate...... but is this shot with the current 970 SLI config?

I assume this will eventually be sorted with drivers/profiles?
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Before I got my rog swift I was playing at 1080p on a 144hz monitor with sli 970's and didn't run into any stutter issues. Having said that, this was before the current batch of problem games
 
Wartris said:
This is maddening, bought a Gigabyte graphics card last week on the recommendation that they have gotten better over the last few years. Due to them treading water over this issue I want to return the card and go for a different AIB, but on the other hand don't want to further cost Overclocker's with the return / possible b-grade item loss.

wartris
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Me too... I had hear about good support from them so wasn't worried.

~>Dg<~ said:
whats crap about it ?

it shows that the fps is fine. stuttering i dont get .

my performance is good. im only at 1080. also single card. sli/crossfire also adds to issues with stutter.

by the time you need the vram over what a 970 has the card will be obsolete anyway. so will a 290.

just remember at the res of 1080/1440 in proper optimized games no buggy mess from ubisoft and the like. its fine.

i know roughly about games coming for next year. guess what a 970s fine.

funny thing is Battlefield Hardline for eg next new fps actually runs even better on a 970 than a 290 :p must be that vram limit.
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I just said what's crap about it... the FPS graph does not display stutter and so it is useless as a reference point to the issue at hand.

We are not talking about using more than what the 970 has, we are talking about using what it has.

Have you read ANY of the thread? Doesn't seem like it...
 
Hi Gibbo.

Can I firstly just say what fantastic customer service you are providing with regards to the GTX970 refunds.

I would really appreciate some help please as I purchased two MSI 4G GTX970's. One from C?L (popular Etailer in Bradford) and one from ocUK.

I read in an earlier post that MSI have given you the backing to refund GTX970customers. However, when approaching C?L Returns for a possible refund of one of the GTX970's they came back with this message below.

"Thank you for your message, I am very sorry to hear you wish to return your item, Nvidia have advised us to refer any customers that wish to return their item for a refund to the manufacturer of the card, which in your case is MSI. Please find the details for MSI below; http://uk.msi.com/about/contact-us"

I am puzzled as to how MSI can possibly refund me when my purchase was with the etailer?

Thank you :)
 
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I can't believe this. I recently RMA'd my 970 and decided to get a MSI 980. I just got it delivered today but it looks like it's dead on arrival or the display ports are not working as the card isn't being recognised. I've tried taking it back out and replacing it but it doesn't seem to do anything. I plug my display and I just have a black screen, yet I can use onboard fine...
 
LambChop said:
That's your reason for returning it, not buying it. Were not silly ;)
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Yeah i am returning it. From what i've seen in tracking system, package is with overclockers by now. nVidia loosing customers now and in future... nVidia prefers to win some money now and loose customers next, overclockers the opposite. They will loose money now but gain our trust, keep the current customers and earn some future customers xD
 
Rykane said:
I can't believe this. I recently RMA'd my 970 and decided to get a MSI 980. I just got it delivered today but it looks like it's dead on arrival or the display ports are not working as the card isn't being recognised. I've tried taking it back out and replacing it but it doesn't seem to do anything. I plug my display and I just have a black screen, yet I can use onboard fine...
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Did you make a reset to the motherboard? It might help you get image xD
 
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Rykane said:
I can't believe this. I recently RMA'd my 970 and decided to get a MSI 980. I just got it delivered today but it looks like it's dead on arrival or the display ports are not working as the card isn't being recognised. I've tried taking it back out and replacing it but it doesn't seem to do anything. I plug my display and I just have a black screen, yet I can use onboard fine...
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You probably have done already however have you checked that all of the power cables are plugged all the way into the GPU?
 
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