I do it even more in real life when i speak, and if the one i speak to doesnt get it i will say that if this was a forum id capitalize the following word.
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970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating
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I do it even more in real life when i speak, and if the one i speak to doesnt get it i will say that if this was a forum id capitalize the following word.
Bottom line for me is that I paid for Fast Usable vram of 4GB(all of it). Not two separate pools of 3.5GB and 0.5GB of fast and slow accessible.
If this was made clear to me at purchasing time I WOULD NOT BUY THE 970. I would instead have stretched for a 980 or waited for AMDs new offerings.
I am waiting on the detailed low level explanation from Nvidia, as at the moment there is not enough detailed information from them. However I know enough about hardware to make a pretty accurate guess. I don't expect this to be "fixable".
If it turns out that I am stuck with 2 pools of segregated vram, I will be seeking a refund from the retailer or MSI. How they get their money back from Nvidia is not my concern.
If this was made clear to me at purchasing time I WOULD NOT BUY THE 970. I would instead have stretched for a 980 or waited for AMDs new offerings.
I am waiting on the detailed low level explanation from Nvidia, as at the moment there is not enough detailed information from them. However I know enough about hardware to make a pretty accurate guess. I don't expect this to be "fixable".
If it turns out that I am stuck with 2 pools of segregated vram, I will be seeking a refund from the retailer or MSI. How they get their money back from Nvidia is not my concern.
That the card's remaining 0.5gb isn't optimized, that it appears to be a tacked on extra to make the card seem more appealing and that runs at significantly lower bandwidth than the main 3.5gb.
While still speculation on the exact specifics, had the card said;
4gb card running 3.5gb at XYZgb/s bandwidth with an extra 0.5 running at XYgb/s,
Instaed of;
4gb Card running at XYZgb/s,
Then not only would people not be complaining, but a lot would not have brought the card, and if it’s a significant enough feature to make people actively choose not to buy it then it should have been included in the items specifications. This is not to say that I'm demanding a refund here and now, only that I am concerned that I brought the item based on information that was not correct and I would like some clarification, which I have zero confidence will either be soon or to my liking.
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Interesting. Do you often find people ignore you then?
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No no no. the 'extra ram' is not tacked on!
970's are 980's with 3 of the 16 SMMs disabled. They are otherwise hardware-identical to the 980's, save the different pcb design. Though thinking about it, my galax uses a 980 pcb. I wonder if that has any bearing on results?
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No that is exactly a GOOD point of argument.
I would be none the wiser if I had not read this thread. The card has excelled in every department in my real world use.
I have not seen anything other than praise for the card (reason I bought it) and this has been rumbling about for months.
TBH Nvidia have not lied, just as Apple have not lied when you buy a 32GB ipad or iphone, The memory is there but does not mean you have 32GB of usable storage.
Nvidia have not been honest , defiantly but we do not know the full story.
Oh and some of us dont refresh hardware that often...
No that is exactly a GOOD point of argument.
I would be none the wiser if I had not read this thread. The card has excelled in every department in my real world use.
I have not seen anything other than praise for the card (reason I bought it) and this has been rumbling about for months.
TBH Nvidia have not lied, just as Apple have not lied when you buy a 32GB ipad or iphone, The memory is there but does not mean you have 32GB of usable storage.
Nvidia have not been honest , defiantly but we do not know the full story.
Oh and some of us dont refresh hardware that often...
You'd be none the wiser because you don't push the card to the point that certain other users do, and based their purchase on its advertised specifications. And i don't buy Apple products.
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Its running AC-U with no issues here....
We might not be enthusiast like yourself, so it works fine.
So I am sure you must have issue with your 970 that we don't...................
It's ridiculous how some of you will say it's not an issue or something you have not noticed when you run single 1080p screen dammit lol. Your experience is not the same as the ones who are running high res setups. This problem does not apply to you, simply because you never had any intent of utilizing the card to its fullest potential. It's stupid, it's pathetic and it's just not necessary.
Its a sad day when i can say i have contributed more to a thread than others, be it trying to figure out the issue or backing up those who are sincerely disappointed and feel scammed because of this. I can understand their frustration, if you are not a complete fanboy you wouldn't allow Nvidia to sell cards based on misleading information.
Its a sad day when i can say i have contributed more to a thread than others, be it trying to figure out the issue or backing up those who are sincerely disappointed and feel scammed because of this. I can understand their frustration, if you are not a complete fanboy you wouldn't allow Nvidia to sell cards based on misleading information.
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i duno its like they had the "benchmark" reply waiting, which news sites just re-posted without even questioning it
i mean who does that, take results made up by the company and trust them
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No that is exactly a GOOD point of argument.
I would be none the wiser if I had not read this thread. The card has excelled in every department in my real world use.
I have not seen anything other than praise for the card (reason I bought it) and this has been rumbling about for months.
TBH Nvidia have not lied, just as Apple have not lied when you buy a 32GB ipad or iphone, The memory is there but does not mean you have 32GB of usable storage.
Nvidia have not been honest , defiantly but we do not know the full story.
Oh and some of us dont refresh hardware that often...
With the phone you know the memory is took up by os.
My 970 does not run that great so I want as much problems brought up in the public eye as possible to get Nvidea to sort out all the issues.
Just because your happy with yours dosnt mean we shouldn't push them for proper advertising or to stop them burying there heads.
Mine works so I ain't bothered about everyone else attitude
I have not said the card doesn't work just fine... But it doesn't have the capabilities that is advertised, and this becomes a problem when people want to run 1440p, 4k, whatever.
How long has this potential "issue" been known? This thread has only really blown up over the weekend. I know Nvidia have been giving a hard time for not getting a more detailed reply or debunk of this theory.... but it has been the weekend.
To be fair, I hope they were probably at home enjoying themselves, gaming on their 970's, stutter free testing new drivers for high memory using games, or whatever Nvidia employees do at the weekends.
I would like a release or something to quell this theory soon though, or fix it. Its not making me feel good about my first Nvidia card in many many years.
To be fair, I hope they were probably at home enjoying themselves, gaming on their 970's, stutter free testing new drivers for high memory using games, or whatever Nvidia employees do at the weekends.
I would like a release or something to quell this theory soon though, or fix it. Its not making me feel good about my first Nvidia card in many many years.
Some people on here have said they have noticed stuttering and thought it was a result of a bad overclock for some time. I guess they're just too much in love with Nvidia to realize something might be wrong, or even blame the drivers lol
Yes, I know, just a poor choice of words on my part that were chosen as a “term of phrase” for it being poor rather than being factually correct.
I just wish I was at home so I could run a few tests on my own cards, other than the fact my 780 gave me a much smoother experience at the same settings as one of my 970’s in Dragon Age all I can do is sit and wait for NVidia to release some more info.
Been up on their forum for a couple of weeks now? It was certainly reported to them quite a while before it was brought up here.
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My AC:U video was recorded at 3413x1440 ......
You have contributed nothing useful at all to this thread!
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