970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating

[james.miller]

Why?

Why? you're trying to take the **** because i'm 'defending nvidias costcutting'. Go look up how AMD make their lesser GPUs then get back to me; There's reason i said it was standard industry practice - because it is. You dont throw away an expensive 5.2billion transistor die just because 5% of it is faulty, you build in obsolescence and make the die viable for lesser, cheaper configurations. Thank goodness you have nothing to do with nVidia OR AMD.

Maybe not 1x GTX970 being able to run 4K, if ever you decided to add another in SLI for 4K. Or you played a game a game which can easily make use of more than 3.5GB of VRAM. i.e. Shadow of Mordor & DA:I

I dont do multi card, never will unless it's given to me on a plate. So yeah, get those mis-sold 970's on the MM already

 

[Harlequin]

interesting from the PCPER video - `NVidia are very good at not miscommunicating technical aspects....`

 

[bru]

@bru


the specs were in the reviewers guide

Can you link to somewhere that has 64ROPs and 2048 L2 cache listed for a 970 that is directly from Nvidia then please because I cannot find anything anywhere.

This would be of great help to anyone who does want to try and get a refund due to the product being misrepresented.

 

[RavenXXX2]

https://www.change.org/p/nvidia-refund-for-gtx-970



Petitioning Nvidia sign and share

 

[thebennyboy]

Why? you're trying to take the **** because i'm 'defending nvidias costcutting'. Go look up how AMD make their lesser GPUs then get back to me; There's reason i said it was standard industry practice - because it is.

Their "lesser GPUs" that have fully fledged GDDR5 and not some gimped bullcrap? OK.

How did you come to the conclusion that i'm taking the ****? You don't like that i disagree with you? Unlike some i'm not defending Nvidia for something they've done which is only going to cause their customers suffering. I have no problem admitting AMD has had their issues.

 

[Tonester0011]

https://www.change.org/p/nvidia-refund-for-gtx-970



Petitioning Nvidia sign and share

80 signatures?
Aim for the stars. Why not!

 

[africanos23]

Watch the call of duty video couple pages back 970 vs 980 amd the stuttering on the 970 is very easy to see vs the 980..

Very shocking, if this can't be fixed then the only thing the user can do is to stop the gpu hitting the vram.

I'm playing COD @ 4K with everything turned down with SLI GTX970s. Sometimes I get stutter when loading levels due to the 512MB "Super Cache"

At least I have my R9-290s when Witcher 3 comes out

 

[james.miller]

Their "lesser GPUs" that have fully fledged GDDR5 and not some gimped bullcrap? OK.

sigh.

The option was, 3.5gb or 3.5gb + 0.5gb of slower access ram. They choose the latter. So tell me, how is that being a cheapskate at the expense of the customer?

How did you come to the conclusion that i'm taking the ****? You don't like that i disagree with you? Unlike some i'm not defending Nvidia for something they've done which is only going to cause their customers suffering. I have no problem admitting AMD has had their issues.

You disagree because you clearly dont understand it.

 

[RavenXXX2]

80 signatures?
Aim for the stars. Why not!

Doubt it will make 10.

 

[Harlequin]

Can you link to somewhere that has 64ROPs and 2048 L2 cache listed for a 970 that is directly from Nvidia then please because I cannot find anything anywhere.

This would be of great help to anyone who does want to try and get a refund due to the product being misrepresented.

http://www.techpowerup.com/205417/nvidia-announces-the-geforce-gtx-980-and-geforce-gtx-970.html

The GeForce GTX 970, on the other hand, features 1,664 CUDA cores, 104 TMUs, 64 ROPs, and the same memory configuration

 

[Harlequin]

HOLY ****


sorry but this was first known about in OCTOBER!!

http://techreport.com/blog/27143/here-another-reason-the-geforce-gtx-970-is-slower-than-the-gtx-980

where they got it slightly wrong was disabling SM`s effected the ROP count.

 

[Flakey]

Been interesting watching this unfold, for sure... Oh it's just drivers, bad benchmarks, can be fixed with firmware updates etc etc.

//my opinion//

Shame on Nvidia for misleading everyone that bought a 970 including myself. (I'm calling bull that there was no one to correct the marketing/press specs before launch, surely SOMEONE would cross-check everything to make sure it looks OK? Or at least you'd hope so..)

They would have done much better for themselves probably if they just marketed it as what it is from the beginning. (would have made the 980 much more attractive for sure).

I hope a solution is offered by Nvidia that is sensible for everyone, customers and retailers alike.

 

[Tonester0011]

Harlequin, so people have been playing with these 970s since OCTOBER!! None of them have said anything till now! DAYMNNN.

 

[Ian Evey]

The 970 would probably be slightly ahead. Albeit with 3584MB of RAM rated at the proper speed and 512 of slower RAM.

Don't forget the part about the 970 still being the FASTER card at 1080 and 1440 over a 290 though, Given that it is severely crippled by the slower 512mb and causes a stuttery mess I am surprised the people that bought them have any eyes left after 6-8 months of using them with this woeful performance.

 

[bru]

http://www.techpowerup.com/205417/nvidia-announces-the-geforce-gtx-980-and-geforce-gtx-970.html

Thank you for that, but unfortunately that isn't form Nvidia, an article written by a guy from techpowerup doesn't constitute proof that Nvidia have actually lied. There must be evidence out there some where, keep looking.

 

[Harlequin]

Harlequin, so people have been playing with these 970s since OCTOBER!! None of them have said anything till now! DAYMNNN.

actually there has been - but its been put down to buggy games or early drivers not mature etc etc

 

[eyetrip]

Harlequin, so people have been playing with these 970s since OCTOBER!! None of them have said anything till now! DAYMNNN.

Oh stop with the bull####

People have had issues. Hence why people looked into it.

 

[thebennyboy]

Don't forget the part about the 970 still being the FASTER card at 1080 and 1440 over a 290 though, Given that it is severely crippled by the slower 512mb and causes a stuttery mess I am surprised the people that bought them have any eyes left after 6-8 months of using them with this woeful performance.

What good is having a faster card if it's going to be a stuttery mess whenever it uses more than 3.5GB? I would opt for the card that can maintain the most stable FPS without stuttering. Whether that is a 290, 980 or w/e. The 970 imo is a waste of money at least until they rectify the problem.

 

[ICEx21]

Harlequin, so people have been playing with these 970s since OCTOBER!! None of them have said anything till now! DAYMNNN.

Nope I had mine for a week before I noticed my issues, like the retard I am I though it must be driver related since everyone kept saying the Nvidia drivers were crap right now so I was hoping for a fix, then I started monitoring the fps and vram usage and noticed the trend so did a quick google to see if this could be fixed.
I noticed others had the same fault yet still I stupidly waited thinking it could still be fixed with a driver until today.

My own stupid fault for keeping it this long even though it's just under a month.

 

[Harlequin]

Nvidia Have fixed this with the GTX 970m

they disabled one entire block - making it 192bit with 3GB ram... thus any potential problems- goes away