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9900KS...

whats the point of 9900ks over the regular 9900k, surely just buying normal 9900k and overclocking will get you a similar performance and save yourself ~£70.

Yeah I get the whole pre-binning argument but what will that get you extra 100mhz? Most 9900k do 5.2ghz from what I can see, unless I am wrong?

5.2ghz vs 5.3ghz vs £70
 
Tom’s preview showed much lower voltage and watts vs a regular 9900, which probably indicates more oc headroom. Not saying that justifies the cost, but it may be enough for some.
 
Nah most 9900k won't do 5Ghz unless you are pushing 1.325-1.35v which is quite hard to cool on anything but custom loop, so its expected these will do 5Ghz with a lot lower voltage so 5.1 and 5.2 will become more common for these CPU when pushing volts.
 
Toasty said:
Nah most 9900k won't do 5Ghz unless you are pushing 1.325-1.35v which is quite hard to cool on anything but custom loop, so its expected these will do 5Ghz with a lot lower voltage so 5.1 and 5.2 will become more common for these CPU when pushing volts.
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Before or after Intel started binning them?
 
Destination said:
Just sounds like the utterance of defeat before one starts, also intel for all their clout can't overrule local laws, we have a 2 year warranty as standard here, if they offer one, it doesn't override your basic laws and protections surely?
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Its manufacturer warranty, which affects the buisnesses more who sell them to you, or if you want to go straight trhough with intel. Same as other stuff, its kinda just the default easy warranty period for all.
 
AMDPower said:
whats the point of 9900ks over the regular 9900k, surely just buying normal 9900k and overclocking will get you a similar performance and save yourself ~£70.

Yeah I get the whole pre-binning argument but what will that get you extra 100mhz? Most 9900k do 5.2ghz from what I can see, unless I am wrong?

5.2ghz vs 5.3ghz vs £70
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All about the voltages. The average 5ghz 9900k requires a custom water loop to cool. The 5ghz 9900ks can be cooled with an air cooler.

That voltage/tempreture/power draw headroom means more overclocking headroom on average.
 
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StriderX said:
Before or after Intel started binning them?
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Last 4 months for sure. However there are rumours that the first batch released to the market & reviewers all got good binned chips.
On consequently batches the were hit and miss, many cannot hit 4.8 at anything bellow 1.35v. Let alone 5Ghz.
 
AMDPower said:
Most 9900k do 5.2ghz from what I can see, unless I am wrong?
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Silicon Lottery's stats say that the top 30% of 9900Ks can do 5GHz at 1.3V, with the top 5% being able to do 5.1GHz at 1.312V (both with a minus 200MHz AVX offset). For the 9700KF it's 37% and 8%. Of course, you can go higher in terms of voltage, but you'll be needing at least a custom loop at that point.

It'll certainly be interesting to see what stock voltages are like on these, and how/if they overclock.
 
Panos said:
Pay a visit on Reddit & Overclock net.
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I have. Can you show me the "many" knowledgeable users having a chip that can't stabilize a 9900k at 4.8ghz with 1.35v and recommended overclocking LLC for their boards?

I'm sure we can dig hard enough to find an outlier (we can in both directions) but that's not what you stated. You inference was "many" and I'm just asking you to actually back it up.
 
An old 14nm CPU pushed to it's limit, with reviewers receiving select best of the best samples to paint an unrealistic picture, and to top it off it's on a dead platform.

No thanks, not when 3950X is a few weeks away.
 
Boot_Loop said:
An old 14nm CPU pushed to it's limit, with reviewers receiving select best of the best samples to paint an unrealistic picture, and to top it off it's on a dead platform.

No thanks, not when 3950X is a few weeks away.
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..this obsession with 14nm is truly bizarre. What the hell does it matter what's under the bonnet, so long as it delivers the goods.

..if Intel launched a 16c 32t CPU next week that was 10-20% faster across all scenario's than a Ryzen 3950X at a similar price but still 'only' 14nm, would you turn it down?

...if yes, you would be in a tiny minority.
 
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