Abbortion

PanMaster said:
If she did it to cover up the affair then she deserved to be punished.

Calling it murder is retarded regardless of motive in my opinion.
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not necessarily - she took a drug to induce labour prematurely... the baby might very well have still been alive when born.

Tbh.. there isn't much difference either way - at 40 weeks its very much a baby - premature births are defined as prior to 37 weeks, 24 week olds have a survival rate of 50%)
 
Gilly said:
No it isn't.



It would definitely appear that she has mental issues.



Regardless of what? You mean had a legal abortion been performed? There is a big, big difference.



Really. The OP has been modified but is still nothing more than a link and run.
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Long Day...

Updated OP.
 
starfighter said:
I am against abortion, I just don't think it is right.
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I'm of the view it should only be considered under certain circumstances.

Scenario A - Aborting a child because getting pregnant was a mistake = WRONG/NOT COOL IMO.

Scenario B - Aborting the child of a rapist = Not cool but I can completely understand why a woman would want an abortion.
 
MooMoo444 said:
Need to abort one of those extra b's in the topic title.
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What do we do with your superfluous apostrophe?

I think it might be time for people to just quit responding to craterloads, I don't think he even properly knows what his opinion on things are until he finds out what the general consensus is, then his opinion is anything that contrasts that.
 
Who gives a damn.

When we live on a world that finds it acceptable to almost knowingly support (I don't see you doing anything about it, nor do I really care in all honesty, but I do care when the masses don't, bit silly but that's me) an arms trade with dictators and what not, have them be put in the hands of the very children we abort.

What is the point?
 
I agree that this woman deserved to go to prison, it's pretty much beyond question. She knowingly broke the law and that's what got her into trouble. What I don't understand in this thread are people who think that women should be told what they can and can't do with their body. If a woman doesn't want a child, regardless of why she doesn't want it or how she got pregnant, should she be forces to carry it? An unwanted pregnancy could ruin a life, and even two, as if the baby isn't really wanted then I suspect it wouldn't be brought up anywhere near as well (walk through your local council estate and you should see a few examples). Let the woman who's body it is decide whether she wants the baby or not. I'd like to see how 'wrong' a lot of people would think an abortion was if they were pregnant.
 
desires said:
Why do women get abortions if there's pills? I'm guessing I'm being naive right now lol.
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If you mean why do they go to a clinic to get it done if they can do it at home with these pills - it is illegal to have an abortion unless done by regulated clinics.
 
DAIR said:
I'm of the view it should only be considered under certain circumstances.

Scenario A - Aborting a child because getting pregnant was a mistake = WRONG/NOT COOL IMO.

Scenario B - Aborting the child of a rapist = Not cool but I can completely understand why a woman would want an abortion.
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I feel that I have no right to dictate to a woman what she can and cannot do with her body and that anti-abortion campaigners are generally more interested in punishing women for being promiscious rather than any real interest in child welfare.
 
StriderX said:
Who gives a damn.

When we live on a world that finds it acceptable to almost knowingly support (I don't see you doing anything about it, nor do I really care in all honesty, but I do care when the masses don't, bit silly but that's me) an arms trade with dictators and what not, have them be put in the hands of the very children we abort.
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How do you give a weapon to an aborted baby? :confused:

StriderX said:
What is the point?
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Of your post? I am struggling with that one too! :D
 
RDM said:
I feel that I have no right to dictate to a woman what she can and cannot do with her body and that anti-abortion campaigners are generally more interested in punishing women for being promiscious rather than any real interest in child welfare.
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Well put. Ultimately this whole debate is hot air because women should have control over their reproductive systems. Otherwise we're just animals.
 
RDM said:
I feel that I have no right to dictate to a woman what she can and cannot do with her body and that anti-abortion campaigners are generally more interested in punishing women for being promiscious rather than any real interest in child welfare.
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I agree but then there is the counter argument that I've demonstrated again and again (and am unwilling to do so again - search if you want the answers) that there is more than one life at stake. Does that mean abortion should be denied - no - but it does not mean we should not be upfront and honest about what exactly we are doing and weigh the decision properly not by pretending their is only one person involved. I feel I have no right to sanction the termination of a human life UNLESS that termination of that life brings 'less harm' to all concerned. Harm being weighted across all sociological, psychological and physical factors. I have frequently, in past, effectively terminated peoples lives but I did so because I could justify it - not by pretending there was no life there in the first place.
 
Inquizitor said:
Well put. Ultimately this whole debate is hot air because women should have control over their reproductive systems. Otherwise we're just animals.
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If they exercised proper control over their reproductive systems then most abortions wouldn't have been required in the first place.

Anyway the general abortion arguments are a bit mute in this thread as this case is something more akin to infanticide - the foetus was at full term, it was essentially a baby that she could have given birth to and that could have survived without the need of hospital facilities.

The mother is claiming that it was still born yet has refused to reveal where the body is.
 
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