Abu Qatada

Frightful Boar · 10 Jul 2013 at 09:13

scorza said:
How many people have the EDL killed or injured?

Doesn't matter. Bigotry is way worse than murder.

RDM · 10 Jul 2013 at 09:21

scorza said:
How many people have the EDL killed or injured?

I think more people from Unite Against Facism have been arrested than the knuckle draggers from the EDL too.

Freakbro · 10 Jul 2013 at 09:29

Frightful Boar said:
Doesn't matter. Bigotry is way worse than murder.

So for example : I think there should be a 'lol' at the end of this one...

MooMoo444 · 10 Jul 2013 at 09:34

Frightful Boar said:
Doesn't matter. Bigotry is way worse than murder.

r u havin a giggle m8?

Frightful Boar · 10 Jul 2013 at 09:35

Freakbro said:
So for example : I think there should be a 'lol' at the end of this one...

I disagree. Using 'lol' is for the not-so-bright.

Frightful Boar · 10 Jul 2013 at 09:37

MooMoo444 said:
r u havin a giggle m8?

Plainly I am not serious!

I am having a dig at the hysteria that 'racism' provokes.

ZXSpectrum · 10 Jul 2013 at 09:44

I do think that although getting rid of him is great and as soon as we get rid of the rest of the scum that preach hate towards the country that gives them a roof over their head, food in their belly and clothes on their back the better. Unfortunately, although it will set a dangerous prescient, not removing their family from the UK will leave the UK open to home grown terrorism. The way that communication is today in this world it would not be difficult for the family to be radicalised by internet by people that support the person that has been exiled. It wouldn't take much for the mother in this case to constantly remind her children that their father has been kicked out because of his beliefs.

Gilly · 10 Jul 2013 at 09:51

koolpc said:
Its what everyone is thinking, boyo.

He was scum and this country needs to rid the place of all of his compatriots etc etc. No more softly softly.

All of his compatriots?

What absolute mindless garbage.

ZXSpectrum said:
I do think that although getting rid of him is great and as soon as we get rid of the rest of the scum that preach hate towards the country that gives them a roof over their head, food in their belly and clothes on their back the better. Unfortunately, although it will set a dangerous prescient, not removing their family from the UK will leave the UK open to home grown terrorism. The way that communication is today in this world it would not be difficult for the family to be radicalised by internet by people that support the person that has been exiled. It wouldn't take much for the mother in this case to constantly remind her children that their father has been kicked out because of his beliefs.

That's dangerously close to condemning someone for something that haven't done, and may never do.

She could very well be just as glad to see the back of him!

scorza said:
How many people have the EDL killed or injured?

Hundreds, if not thousands, and they're at the core of the angst and trouble in my locale.

Freakbro · 10 Jul 2013 at 10:08

Frightful Boar said:
I disagree. Using 'lol' is for the not-so-bright.

Perfect for that post then!

(I was referencing the other conversation in the life sentence thread for you to try and highlight your sarcasm in some way, as you are coming over quite serious with your posts)

ZXSpectrum · 10 Jul 2013 at 10:48

Gilly said:
That's dangerously close to condemning someone for something that haven't done, and may never do.

She could very well be just as glad to see the back of him!

You may well be right but I do also understand the loyalty of blood relations/family members. You are right she may well be glad to see the back of him but she could also indoctrinate them into becoming terrorists, especially if he is shipped off to another country, tried and imprisoned.

What is the answer? I don't know, ship them out? Put them under full time surveillance for the rest of their lives? Leave them alone with the possibility of them turning up on the news when they blow themselves up on a London bus?

ntg · 10 Jul 2013 at 11:08

ZXSpectrum said:
You may well be right but I do also understand the loyalty of blood relations/family members. You are right she may well be glad to see the back of him but she could also indoctrinate them into becoming terrorists, especially if he is shipped off to another country, tried and imprisoned.

Whereas if he was not deported she would raise them to be libertines..

What is the answer? I don't know, ship them out? Put them under full time surveillance for the rest of their lives? Leave them alone with the possibility of them turning up on the news when they blow themselves up on a London bus?

The answer is to treat them as you treat anyone else, innocent until proven guilty. There may be a flag for them for the police to look after in years to come, as the likelihood of indoctrination is high, but nothing more than that.

scorza · 10 Jul 2013 at 15:06

Gilly said:
Hundreds, if not thousands, and they're at the core of the angst and trouble in my locale.

Yeah, I'm calling BS on that one. Shame on you.

PooBrain · 10 Jul 2013 at 15:32

scorza said:
Yeah, I'm calling BS on that one. Shame on you.

I concur but i'm not surprised Gilly posted that cow mess of a statement tbh what with him being a hippy in the UAF.

MiKeOnE10110 · 10 Jul 2013 at 15:37

Gilly said:
Hundreds, if not thousands, and they're at the core of the angst and trouble in my locale.

Sorry but that comment is scandalous.

deuse · 10 Jul 2013 at 15:45

Gilly said:
Hundreds, if not thousands, and they're at the core of the angst and trouble in my locale.

More BS from gilly or do you want to show us some proof or should I say Citation needed?

Waits for gilly to come back as normal with silly answers as he NEVER backs up what he claims

Gilly · 10 Jul 2013 at 16:09

scorza said:
Yeah, I'm calling BS on that one. Shame on you.

Yes, because that makes a difference.

They have caused more issues than I can count around here with their stupid marches and their racism and NF loutish behavior.

PooBrain said:
I concur but i'm not surprised Gilly posted that cow mess of a statement tbh what with him being a hippy in the UAF.

I'm not surprised you look down on members of the UAF (not that I am one) being that they campaign against the far right.

MiKeOnE10110 said:
Sorry but that comment is scandalous.

It absolutely is, but the scandal isn't that they do it, it's the reaction they get from the populace their marches are designed to rile.

deuse said:
More BS from gilly or do you want to show us some proof or should I say Citation needed?

Waits for gilly to come back as normal with silly answers as he NEVER backs up what he claims

Can you try to make some sense and make this into something that at least resembles a cohesive post?

At that point I can respond.

robgmun · 10 Jul 2013 at 16:12

Gilly said:
Yes, because that makes a difference.

They have caused more issues than I can count around here with their stupid marches and their racism and NF loutish behavior.

Where is here?

Sources to back these numbers up?

I await with bated breath

Gilly · 10 Jul 2013 at 16:14

robgmun said:
Where is here?

Sources to back these numbers up?

I await with bated breath

Numbers of injuries?

I'm afraid I don't have access to details of that kind. Only what I hear from senior staff at local hospitals.

The planning that has to go into EDL marches is unreal.

Here is West Yorkshire.

I wonder what the cost of EDL marches and demonstrations is, not just for strain on hospitals and the pre-planning that has to go on there, but with policing and various other requirements.

spankingtexan · 10 Jul 2013 at 16:22

Gilly said:
Numbers of injuries?

I'm afraid I don't have access to details of that kind. Only what I hear from senior staff at local hospitals.

The planning that has to go into EDL marches is unreal.

Here is West Yorkshire.

I wonder what the cost of EDL marches and demonstrations is, not just for strain on hospitals and the pre-planning that has to go on there, but with policing and various other requirements.

You're talking rubbish dude.

robgmun · 10 Jul 2013 at 16:41

Gilly said:
Numbers of injuries?

I'm afraid I don't have access to details of that kind. Only what I hear from senior staff at local hospitals.

The planning that has to go into EDL marches is unreal.

Here is West Yorkshire.

I wonder what the cost of EDL marches and demonstrations is, not just for strain on hospitals and the pre-planning that has to go on there, but with policing and various other requirements.

So in other words you're having a case of verbal diarrhea, You've plucked numbers out of thin air to support a morally warped view. A view while it's all happy clappy is in fact more damaging and dangerous.