Adam Johnson - The Results Show
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Well... Child grooming. One of the charges he admitted to.
I hate to admit it but I agree with KH in her latest article
Girl gets off with a pro footballer, footballer stands her up, she gets drunk and tells people about it, then plays victim to get a few quid
(was going to post this in GD)
Girl gets off with a pro footballer, footballer stands her up, she gets drunk and tells people about it, then plays victim to get a few quid
(was going to post this in GD)
Well that's ok then, we can all rest easy with letting Adam Johnson carry on being able to spend time with underage schoolgirls. It's their fault if anything happens.
Have a read of the text message exchanges. He was totally grooming her. Pretty unpleasant on the whole.
This reporter was tweeting from the court (scroll down to read the 12th Feb stuff);
https://twitter.com/JoshHalliday
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Should just let Johnson have his way with as many under-age school girls as he wants. It's obviously their fault if anything happens.
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No, again, he was found guilty of fingering her, accused of getting a blowjob and admitted to grooming and kissing her.
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Right, if a girl of 13 is being banged by her father but was consenting to it and only let it slip to other people while drunk... it would be totally wrong to punish the father.
Yes, she seems like a pretty willing participant, that doesn't make what he did legal or morally right. Essentially you're saying if he kept diddling a child, it progressed to full on sex, it's fine if she didn't tell anyone?
I don't even think she is playing victim, she appeared to have been defending him right up till in his defence his lawyers started to try to tear her to pieces at which point she felt, pretty justifiably, upset with how she was being treated.
Regardless of her role in it he KNEW she was under 16 and it is against the law. He went after her knowing it was illegal.
If he met her in a club, she looked 21, he had no reason to believe she wasn't 21 and was being done for statutory rape because of her misleading him about her age that is entirely different. In this case it's a fact that Johnson knew precisely how old she was, that it was illegal and he went after her anyway.
Afaik he didn't force himself on her, she didn't cry rape, she went around bragging about it while drunk, and when it all started to seem unfavorable in the eyes of her peers, friends and family THAT was when she reported it.
Yes, he knew she was 15, but if she didn't want to do what she ended up doing with him, then she shouldn't have put herself in that situation ie: meeting up with him in his car, especially after the type of messages he sent her.
It was clear what his intent was. Even if she tries to claim that she didn't understand his intentions, her responses to his messages makes is obvious that she did. Even going as far as sending him pictures in a bikini
A portion of the blame lies with her too. Her actions, coupled with the fact that he followed his willy instead of his brain, have caused this. 15 and 16 year old girls can be super manipulative.
All this is IMO of course
There was no intercourse, so of course 'he didn't force himself on her' - that would be rape (of a minor).
Also; have you actually followed the case at all or have you just read that awful opinion piece by that abhorrent woman? The victim did not go to the police, the victims mother did.
Just 15. Just 15. As in she had just turned 15. Johnson (as it is extremely evident via the messages) groomed and manipulated her in to getting what he wanted.
Johnson manipulated his victim. His lengthy sentence will be based on his predatory behaviour.
No, I do not think you can blame the victim of a predator for being a victim, she was (just) 15 years old, and Johnson met the victim at the training ground.
Regardless of her intentions Johnson should never have entertained her once he knew she was underage.
Her actions are not really important. We have child protection laws in place to protect children from being targetted by adults sexually, Johnson ignored them and now must face the consequences of his actions, she hasn't broken any laws.
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Yup, as a community of people we generally believe the younger you are the less experience you have and the worse decision you are likely to make. It doesn't mean older people can't make **** decisions nor that kids can't. But there is a reason kids tend to get talked into things so easily on the internet and why people target them.
A kid gets in the back of a van because someone offers them candy, they think they are getting candy, not abused, the guy in the van is using a kids naivety to his advantage. Johnson told her he'd give her a signed shirt if he met up with her, she was a massive fan and wanted the shirt and maybe believed that was entirely all it was. Maybe she was extremely attracted to him as her idol but never believed he would be attracted to her so it was safe to meet him to get a signed shirt. He then plays the "you owe me" card and she naively feels she does in fact owe him something.
Who knows, the entire point is we have these laws in place so that those kids who are too inexperienced to know better are protected to some level. Johnson being an adult knows all this yet went after her anyway.
That the law may or may not be stupid, that the girl may or may not have been into it is irrelevant. HE knew the law, broke the law willingly and the laws aren't particularly bad in this case.
If a 17yr old sleeps with a 15yr old, consensually, afaik they wouldn't get into trouble due to the closeness in ages. Effectively two kids making a stupid decision they regret is just life, a 28yr old or whatever making a much more informed decision while a 15yr old girl makes a poor decision is a very different situation.
A kid gets in the back of a van because someone offers them candy, they think they are getting candy, not abused, the guy in the van is using a kids naivety to his advantage. Johnson told her he'd give her a signed shirt if he met up with her, she was a massive fan and wanted the shirt and maybe believed that was entirely all it was. Maybe she was extremely attracted to him as her idol but never believed he would be attracted to her so it was safe to meet him to get a signed shirt. He then plays the "you owe me" card and she naively feels she does in fact owe him something.
Who knows, the entire point is we have these laws in place so that those kids who are too inexperienced to know better are protected to some level. Johnson being an adult knows all this yet went after her anyway.
That the law may or may not be stupid, that the girl may or may not have been into it is irrelevant. HE knew the law, broke the law willingly and the laws aren't particularly bad in this case.
If a 17yr old sleeps with a 15yr old, consensually, afaik they wouldn't get into trouble due to the closeness in ages. Effectively two kids making a stupid decision they regret is just life, a 28yr old or whatever making a much more informed decision while a 15yr old girl makes a poor decision is a very different situation.
Former Sunderland player Cabral charged with rape
BBC Link.
Footballer arrested on charge of rape in January - intended to plead not guilty, left the club by mutual consent the next month.
Johnson arrested on charges of child abuse in March - intended to plead not guilty, remained at the club and playing for the club until February where he admitted guilt and was then sacked.
BBC Link.
Footballer arrested on charge of rape in January - intended to plead not guilty, left the club by mutual consent the next month.
Johnson arrested on charges of child abuse in March - intended to plead not guilty, remained at the club and playing for the club until February where he admitted guilt and was then sacked.
Hasn't the CEO at the club already quit for having known the truth throughout the whole debacle though? and she never thought to notify higher ups at the club? it smacks to me of my earlier suspicions:
Margaret Byrne quits as Sunderland chief over Adam Johnson abuse case
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Margaret Byrne quits as Sunderland chief over Adam Johnson abuse case
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6 years is simply not enough, he is lucky to get away with such a small sentence and I also hope he doesn't get the sentence reduced.
He'll probably do 3
