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Advises for my Upgrade

Discussion in 'OcUK Full Systems & Bundles' started by 4K8KW10, Oct 9, 2017.

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  1. energizer123

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    Agree with orbital, there is always something coming round the corner. With regard to prices, they can go up as well as down. I got my 1080Ti on release and now would have to pay £60 more for exactly the same card.

    If you can afford it and want it, i would recommend getting it and enjoying it.
     
  2. orbitalwalsh

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    Volta isn't in any rush and enterprise most likely taking up all stock when comes available
    Ti production has been cut for number of reasons so prices will creep up, Gibbo already stating they ordered in a lot of stock prior
    AMD in no rush to rush zen+ , 1st gen doing well and stock levels healthy . It's only Intel to get their act together
     
  3. 4K8KW10

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    The next big thing after 4K, as far as I know is 8K. But I consider 4K the first 'good enough' resolution for the ~24" screens.
    After getting a decent 4K monitor with that size, I'll be at no hurry or any willingness to get an 8K one.

    Wait continues...
     
  4. orbitalwalsh

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    24" screen is too small for 4k. Needs to be at least 32" - and then how far away you sit from it etc .
     
  5. geordiejc

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    my 27" 4k was perfect sitting at my desk
     
  6. 4K8KW10

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    I like screens with high dots per inch. Makes the move from one device to another much less of a pain. For instance, the move from a ~350 dots per inch screen to a large 24" screen with very poor resolution of only 1920 x 1080 isn't pleasant at all.
     
  7. 4K8KW10

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    Update on the story now.
    Very soon it will be finally something in these lines:

    G.SKill Ripjaws V 16GB Kit DDR4-3200 CL15 (F4-3200C15D-16GVR)
    AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Box (Socket AM4, 12nm, YD2700BBAFBOX)
    Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming
    Samsung PM961 M.2 256GB
    Monitor 4K Ultra HD LG 24UD58
    XFX P1-750G-TS3X 750W Power supply

    If Ryzen 3000 appears solid, I may just swap for a new CPU.
    Good times ahead.

    Does anyone have a feedback on this CL15 memory kit?
     
  8. orbitalwalsh

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    Since they are on sale, well worth grabbing, 3600 may have to be failed back till micro codes and bios updates roll out

    My basket at Overclockers UK:
    Total: £408.68 (includes shipping: £8.70) ​
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    Also, push Aorus 5 if you've got a little bit of extra cash for excellent WiFi and slight change in VRM setup - better cooling - Aorus 7 is overkill but 20c compared to competition haha

    If you also want the NVMe , push the SM version
     
  9. 4K8KW10

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    Why the SM M.2 drive?
    In Germany, we have no the Sm version in stock anywhere.
    And there are no "8 Pack" memory editions, either.

    I think it is the best for me just to stick with the most cost efficient offers.
    The Aorus 7 looks tempting but it is at least 80 euros more, and the memory I can find for well below the 150 mark, additional 50 euro saving.
    130 euro more is too much with no benefit for me.
     
  10. orbitalwalsh

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    Why 5 looks to be nice middle ground, WiFi if you need it and VRM count and cooling .
    Unable to find trident Z (and edition ) - expensive but damn nice :)
    Basically almost the Evo but lacks the full driver support , normally they are cheaper to .
     
  11. 4K8KW10

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    Well, yes, I do need a WiFi but am thinking about an additional WiFi USB dongle to be bought separately.
    Do you think that the integrated in the motherboard is better?
    The price difference is 140 euro vs 200 euro and for this difference of 60 euro, maybe I can buy something better, no?

    Thank you for the help ;)
     
  12. orbitalwalsh

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    If I was going to do wireless via add in, would be £50+ Asus or TP usb or PCIe with 3 antenna , add that to a £125 board and comes near £200 . Why Aorus 5 is a perfect middle ground and 7 is left for those to chase dreams as 400+ amps across the VRM is overkill . Combines the IR units found in the hero with the controller from the Taichi :D
     
  13. 4K8KW10

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    For me, no motherboard can be ever an overkill. In the beginning, when the processor is still new, its stock performance might be more than enough.
    But because I will not go after everything newest and greatest, with the lifespan of the processor and when it becomes slower for some applications, I will overclock.
    And then, these VRMs may prove life saving.

    I will try to stretch to the Gigabyte 7, because the price difference with the 5 is too small, mere 20 or 30 euro.
     
  14. orbitalwalsh

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    Won't take to long for x470 to surpass x370 ram speeds in half the time .
    Aorus 5 has 3 vrm for SOC to the 2 of Aorus 7 , but they are better quality . Taichi does has tons of VRMs but uses older IR model then hero/7

    Think my 7 lands Monday along with ultra for a friend :)
     
  15. 4K8KW10

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  16. orbitalwalsh

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    Perfectly fine, most x470 board are overkill whilst keeping price down which is nice

    7 is 10+2 . Design of Ryzen doesn't tax VRMs like coffeelake

    Gamersnexus has tear down of the 7 and few others have the Ultra . I don't think z490 will had to much over the top , and don't think they'll be a SOC z490 board like the Z370 version ... Now that's overkill but only a handful produced
     
  17. 4K8KW10

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    It is like the motherboard was assembled in an unknown garage somewhere in China, by students who do it for the first time.
    Abysmal soldering quality there.
     
  18. orbitalwalsh

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    Pretty much all boards are like that , want soldering done right, you produce in EU . Same can be said with most GPU heatsinks :/
     
  19. 4K8KW10

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    I will be extremely grateful to you if you tell me which motherboards are not like that.
    I think I will not buy anything from Gigabyte. If they don't care about so simple thing like the appearance, guess how much they will care about more serious stuff.
     
  20. 4K8KW10

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    I will push for the Adata XPG SX8200 480GB

    https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/xpg_sx8200_m_2_ssd_review,10.html

    So, update on my specification:

    Adata XPG SX8200 480GB
    Gigabyte X470 Aorus Gaming 7 WIFI
    AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Box (Socket AM4, 12nm, YD2700BBAFBOX)
    Monitor 4K Ultra HD LG 24UD58
    PSU XFX P1-750G-TS3X 750W


    With the memory being one of these:

    Patriot Viper 16GB Kit DDR4-3200 (PV416G320C6K)
    Apacer Commando 16GB Kit DDR4-3200 (EK.16GA1.GEAK2)
    G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB Black Kit DDR4-3200 CL16 (F4-3200C16D-16GVKB)
    Team Dark Pro 16GB Kit DDR4-3200 CL16 (TDPGD416G3200HC16ADC01)
    G.Skill TridentZ 16GB Kit DDR4-3200 CL16 (F4-3200C16D-16GTZ)

    Which one? :)