He is not popular with many heads of state or former heads of state right now that is for sure - had to laugh at Trump calling him incompetent and Blair indirectly calling him an imbecile and several higher up people in organisations like NATO and the likes have said some very uncomplimentary things.
Afghanistan - 20 years on
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He is not popular with many heads of state or former heads of state right now that is for sure - had to laugh at Trump calling him incompetent and Blair indirectly calling him an imbecile and several higher up people in organisations like NATO and the likes have said some very uncomplimentary things.
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That's disputed by the state department, The people I see reporting it as fact are fox news.
Now, if they are lying about it, then yes Bidens team deserves to take the wrap...but unreliable right wing sources are the only ones talking about it.
Blair merely saw an opportunity to shift the blame from himself and took it, he's still responsible for entering us into this shambolic mess in the first place.
Why didn't Trump use his four years in office to get people out then if he's such a competent fellow?
Been a lot of talk about this bit:
The final draw down is going to be a nightmare as numbers thin out and wouldn't be surprised if the US try to slip out leaving others in the lurch. Biden really has ****** a lot of people over with his blithering incompetence.
Ultimately you have to be responsive to the situation on the ground and act appropriately hence at one point Obama surged numbers, not to say Trump did anything to reason but the time wasn't right until things had been managed towards a specific goal step by step.
Soldato
Why do you always believe your libs news outlets?
It took me all of 5 mins to find the official document.
It says "The Department has paused implementation of Op Med (CCR) pending a policy review"
It was NOT RENSTATED.
https://www.state.gov/wp-content/up..._USAID-Congressional-Budget-Justification.pdf
Do your home work and stop being forced fed by lib sites
Soldato
Stop trying to make this all about trump.
At least he put in place the right people to get people out.
Do some homework dude...no really.
Soldato
In my opinion.
Biden is letting americans die because him and his crew haven't got a clue what to do,
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Yes, paused implementation
As in, it wasn't even up and running.
That document you linked to even confirms the spend on Op med in 2020 was $0...
Also what do you consider "lib news sites" as I tend to use Reuters and BBC
Soldato
It's futile pointing the finger at individual heads of state. They're all slime and they are all to blame.
Yes I suppose it is futile, won't even matter in a few months anyway.
Soldato
It was ready for the pullout and covid.
Show me where it wasn't up and running 2020. Official document please.
Remember it was running and helping covid people...
You haven't read the doc. I can see it money. But you're not looking.
I know you never read the document.....
Just to help.
There are 8 departments including the CCRB
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You are right, I did not read the full 164 page document you posted.
But then, neither did you.
I did however search for Op-med and CCR and the document confirms the budget for that was $0 in 2020.
It was actually Obama who implemented Op-med in 2013, and it seems that is what was used during covid times to evacuate people.
This CCR thing never got up and running.
It's just noise from the right.
https://www.mediamatters.org/war-af...ry-biden-dismantled-agency-evacuate-americans
But then, neither did you.
I did however search for Op-med and CCR and the document confirms the budget for that was $0 in 2020.
It was actually Obama who implemented Op-med in 2013, and it seems that is what was used during covid times to evacuate people.
This CCR thing never got up and running.
It's just noise from the right.
https://www.mediamatters.org/war-af...ry-biden-dismantled-agency-evacuate-americans
Which Americans are you referring to?
Hard to get a clear picture of what's going on. I've heard the Taliban have disabled mobile networks maybe that is why. I assume the various militaries have gone quiet deliberately to protect ongoing operations.
Soldato
Again I ask for official docs not a libs thoughts.
Yes I have read it ages ago. That's how I know it was funded under trump.
You did know that obama setup the OpMed.
CCR and CCRB has to take over from OpMed. Biden closed them down.
"New @StateDept Bureau to Take $26 Million, Plus 98 Staffers From the Medical Services Bureau"
Under trump
Which was a part of a larger dept.
https://diplopundit.net/2020/10/20/...98-staffers-from-the-medical-services-bureau/
Picture of the memo https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/bidens-state-dept-halted-trump-era-crisis-response-plan/
I never got it from fox.
Soldato
That's a nonsensical reply.
If Biden wasn't helping them, they'd have no military presence left at the airport. Reports are they are going out to those still left and escorting them back in.
The US has been pulling out of Afghanistan for a decade. They pulled out the majority of their forces a month or more ago. Why people have left it till now decide to leave, or in some cases only recently traveled to Afghanistan baffles me. No one can be surprised at what's happened here.
The withdrawal was poorly planned. No doubt.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with changing your mind.
But that would be different wouldn't it?
Let's have bacon for breakfast
To
Actually I feel like ceral now it morning
Vs what he did
Let's have bacon for breakfast
To
I never said we would have bacon I've said for years e will have cereal
He's not changing his mind he's just lying about what he said in the past.
I think the most likely answer is he was in opposition in 2002 so he was simply ******* with thw government.
Same as our keir will be saying we shouldn't left just because the americans did but if he was pm he'd have left too.
The Americans are being told not to go to the Airport, that they are safe from the taliban and they will be alowed to leave safely later. American troops aren't sallying out like the UK team to retrieve people either. They (USA) have made one trip to a hotel 200m from the airport
They are worried of an ISIS attack on the airport crowds.
I think that's what he is referring too it was on the BBC last night