Ahmaud Arbery killing trial

So you don't think this case is about racism? The killing and the cover up that followed?
No that's not what I'm saying, read post 6 for one. Seeing racism where there is none is in relation to post 5 and others and the allusion that there's no replies to the thread because its a black man that was murdered and the forum 'racists' are in hiding.
 
No that's not what I'm saying, read post 6 for one. Seeing racism where there is none is in relation to post 5 and others and the allusion that there's no replies to the thread because its a black man that was murdered.

You're wasting your time. He literally can't read and understand basic English.
 
No that's not what I'm saying, read post 6 for one. Seeing racism where there is none is in relation to post 5 and others and the allusion that there's no replies to the thread because its a black man that was murdered and the forum 'racists' are in hiding.

ah sorry, should have looked back to page 1.
 
Now I'm going to infer from that that race was definitely involved in this.

Thats understandable based on that comment. Now I don't know how much it's pure racism or just using a a racist term as a descriptor (like saying ****'ing Ginger **** or ****'ing fat **** etc) but in the end it won't matter which version they used it in as it's yet another thing in the prosecutions favour to show intent.
 
Racial prejudice, they assumed a black man out jogging was a thief.

No, they saw a man trespassing who ran when disturbed and so they gave chase which, after the previous incidents at that location, I'd assume they'd have done the same to anyone they caught trespassing irrespective of skin colour.

Additionally however, in this case it just happened to have been a Black person running away and a least one of those giving chase is very probably a racist based on Klinck's quoted Reuters report, which will just add to the prosecutions case against them.
 
What's really interesting is actually the lack of attention this case has gotten from the left wing media specifically. On one hand they have been hysterical about the Kyle Rittenhouse case despite clear self defence and it only being tangentially related to some race related riot, yet have been almost silent on this case despite it probably being racially based murder. They are far more focused on BLM virtue signalling than actual racial justice.
 
What's really interesting is actually the lack of attention this case has gotten from the left wing media specifically. On one hand they have been hysterical about the Kyle Rittenhouse case despite clear self defence and it only being tangentially related to some race related riot, yet have been almost silent on this case despite it probably being racially based murder. They are far more focused on BLM virtue signalling than actual racial justice.

As has been pointed out, after the initial lack of investigation due to old boyism, and the charges since, there’s been a lot less controversy, so a lot less to discuss.
 
So you don't think this case is about racism? The killing and the cover up that followed?


I think the uk rape gangs were racist and were also covered up for racist reasons.

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Strange I have never seen you make a thread about this if you hate racism so much.
 
I think the uk rape gangs were racist and were also covered up for racist reasons.

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Strange I have never seen you make a thread about this if you hate racism so much.

There is already a thread on it. Why would I start another? These cases aren't in any way related. The grooming gangs do indeed target local white girls and they do it because they are white. Although I'm sure they would target back girls as well. No one has said race isn't involved in it and that it isn't ****** that the police and local social services didn't act far earlier when they had been given a heads up it was happening. Why do you always feel the need to counter a post on one form of racism with another?

The US case is interesting due to the historical problems with race there. More interesting because if the video hadn't leaked these guys would be walking free and the institutions that covered it up wouldn't have been exposed. We don't have institutional racism here, well certainly nothing like on the scale of the US.
 
All 3 guilty of murder. Only his actual killer guilty of all the murder charges.

No surprise there for me, there were many other ways that this should have ended that would have left Arbery alive. I don't think this was "pre-meditated" as such in that I don't think that Travis McMichael knew he was going to kill Arbery before he got out of the truck but his actions left only one course of events possible sadly.

I think it also highlights were the limitations of "self defence" are i.e if you chase someone and you attack them first (the video showed one of the defendants trying to grab Arbery first as the truck stopped) then it makes it almost impossible to then claim self defence at a later date as you committed the first act.
 
Felony Murder is such a horrible law. Utterly unjust.

No tears for these guys being sent down, but I'm never happy to see felony Murder being the charge.,
 
No surprise there for me, there were many other ways that this should have ended that would have left Arbery alive. I don't think this was "pre-meditated" as such in that I don't think that Travis McMichael knew he was going to kill Arbery before he got out of the truck but his actions left only one course of events possible sadly.

I think it also highlights were the limitations of "self defence" are i.e if you chase someone and you attack them first (the video showed one of the defendants trying to grab Arbery first as the truck stopped) then it makes it almost impossible to then claim self defence at a later date as you committed the first act.

Yeah in this case you've got much clearer provocation - chasing someone down and blocking their path etc.. brandishing a firearm it seems too - rather different to actively trying to get away from someone as in the Rittenhouse case.

I was a bit surprised initially to see the guy who filmed it being charged too but I guess there might well have been more video footage of him + there is some evidence he hit Arbery with his pickup truck earlier on.

I mean I can see why you might want to approach and challenge/question someone who is acting suspiciously, has just snooped in an open house he had no business being in especially in the context of recent petty theft etc. in that area. It's crossing a line when you start chasing someone down and nudging them with your truck when they've not clearly committed any crime or at least aren't in the process of committing one and aren't a clear danger to anyone - only crime Arbery seems to have committed in that scenario was trespass and he wasn't in the process of trespassing at the time of the encounter.

It does seem slightly harsh for Bryan to end up with felony murder too rather than just aggravated assault if he just assumed he was chasing a suspected burglar and had no part in the shooting/carrying guns etc.. the McMichaels on the other hand... they're the pair with the guns who blocked his path and instigated it all.

It seems they're all facing federal felony charges too next year for the same incident - which is also something that seems silly/pointless - the USA's double jeopardy loophole which probably needs to be closed.
 
Remember, if local authorities in Georgia had their way, no one would have ever been charged for the murder of Ahmaud Arbery.

It took weeks of protest before charges were even brought in the case, 74 days after Arbery was shot and killed in February 2020.

The prosecutor at the time is now facing her own criminal trial in February for advising the elder McMichael to wash his hands and telling the police to stand down.
 
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