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Alder Lake-S leaks

humbug said:
That's because what you're doing is locking to PL1, which incidentally is what Intel base their TDP on, so 125 Watts for the 10900K.

What's supposed to happen is the CPU is supposed to boost to PL2 for a few minutes, just enough time to complete a Cinebench run and then settle to PL1, most motherboards ignore that out of the box and just run at PL2 permanently.

Ryzen, or Zen 3 at least is different, though also a bit of a lie, it doesn't have PL1 and PL2, just a power limit of 142 Watts, doesn't mean it will run at that power level, typically a 5950X runs at about 130 Watts package power, which is different from the 105 Watt TDP, what AMD are doing is ignoring the Un-Core, the IO die, the 105 watts is the CPU cluster/s alone, the Un-Core or IO die chiplet typically uses about 20 to 25 watts, its on 12nm vs 7nm for the CPU chiplet. Put together you have your Package power, about 130 Watts.
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A mod will be along soon to delete your post as off topic rubbish.

This is a Intel thread bro, didn’t ya know :p
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
I wouldn't call 100 quid cheap since good DDR4 kits were going near enough half that a little while back, but given current pricing and new tech it's not bad.
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Looking on OCUK now, 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz c14 is £180. Drop down to c16 though and it's £50... Be very interesting to see a thorough benchmark of DDR4 vs DDR5, cheap to expensive kits. From hints on other forums from those testing, I think many who just compare the latency of DDR5 and write it off, will be surprised.
 
Grim5 said:
That's what the leaks say they are going to do lol. I assume they'll make IPC or clock gains or something, but there is nothing about going higher than 8 big cores.

This architecture won't be around for very long anyway so it's not going to be an issue (assuming no delays from Intel on their next gen CPU architecture coming in 2 years)
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Worth noting however that the efficiency cores are still faster than skylake (cometlake) cores.
 
RKL was DOA when Alder Lake was right round the corner not sure why would anyone buy it for how much it cost and platform that had no future other than maybe fan boys

Anyone sane would have bought 5900x at the time
 
I think most people who weren't totally blind knew Rocket Lake was a pointless release, and was just basically burning your money (as well as electricity) waiting for Alder Lake or sticking with what you already had was the sensible option if you weren't buying a low end part, like the 11400 which was a great chip, all the K parts were not.

Sadly I'm not getting to play with any Alder Lake parts until 2022 when the embedded SKU's and low TDP parts become avialble, although I might buy a setup just to mess around with, depends on how bored I am over the festive period.
 
waspy88 said:
Has anyone ordered these from the Ocuk store? the 12900KF showed in stock, so got that and the strix mobo.. hopefully a nice bump to from the old 8700K
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For the price difference, I feel it's worth going for the 12900k version, as the integrated GPU is extremely handy for troubleshooting, also increases resale value in my experience. Though the queue on OCUK for the K version is likely now in the high hundreds if not thousands, judging by Gibbo's previous comments.

I was very happy to learn Zen4 comes with integrated GPU as well, that'll win it countless designs from the likes of Dell where additional GPU outputs are required, irrespective of the power of the iGPU.
 
uscool said:
RKL was DOA when Alder Lake was right round the corner not sure why would anyone buy it for how much it cost and platform that had no future other than maybe fan boys

Anyone sane would have bought 5900x at the time
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RKL was very fun to overclock and play with. Also, solid chip for gaming, where it excelled in many titles that prefer Intel.

Hoping Alderlake is as much fun to play with!

For those of us who enjoy building, testing, overclocking these chips as a hobby, this is a fantastic time where competition means rapid innovation.
 
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