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Alder Lake-S leaks

Hardware Unboxed says in their final thoughts of the Alder Lake review that its probably better to wait and see what AMD brings early next year with their new 3D V-Cache CPU's.
 
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uscool said:
so what do you buy if doing complete new build ? buy alder lake with board that uses ddr4 ? but down the line ddr5 prices will drop and get faster and would be stuck on ddr4 board would need to change board ?
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|This is quite the dilemma - will your older DDR5 board actually support the faster memory as it develops?
My old z270 choked a bit when I upgraded to faster DDR4 ram
 
uscool said:
so what do you buy if doing complete new build ? buy alder lake with board that uses ddr4 ? but down the line ddr5 prices will drop and get faster and would be stuck on ddr4 board would need to change board ?
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If buying a complete build it makes sense to go for a DDR5 board imo - potentially Z690 may take Raptor-Lake as a drop in upgrade (which will likely require DDR5),

If you already have good DDR4, then obviously a DDR4 board (or an AMD build) makes sense.
 
NinjaCool said:
Hardware Unboxed says in their final thoughts of the Alder Lake review that its probably better to wait and see what AMD brings nearly next year with their new 3D V-Cache CPU's.
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Right now, for the cost of the platform....

Intel did very well but they were up against a very strong CPU from AMD, CPU's that are also coming to EOL.

And the power consumption to do it is insane.
 
Now I'm really stuck on what to do...

My gut is telling me 5800x and a refresh chip next year.
Or go ahead with the 12600k and ddr4
 
beasty6 said:
Now I'm really stuck on what to do...

My gut is telling me 5800x and a refresh chip next year.
Or go ahead with the 12600k and ddr4
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Depends on the cost, right now ignoring Zen 3D if i could get a 12700K platform for around the same or a little more than a 5800X and platform i would go for the 12700K, but i don't think you can and with Zen 3D lurking over this....

I don't know, see what you can put together for your money, maybe that will help you decide. one thing to keep in mind is its pointless buying any Zen 3 CPU now if what you want is Zen 3D or ADL, just get ADL ;)
 
humbug said:
Hardware Unboxed Gaming performance looks like a mixed bag, sometimes the 12900K wins, sometimes the 5950X, but the 12900K does win by bigger margins when it does.

Its not the all out win that i think it needed to be, AMD have a CPU with much better gaming performance right up their sleeves.
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Raptor lake will be a drop in upgrade that will probably launch before or at a similar time to the Zen 3 refresh. Though Zen3 still stuck on DDR4 and PCI-Ev4....
 
beasty6 said:
Now I'm really stuck on what to do...

My gut is telling me 5800x and a refresh chip next year.
Or go ahead with the 12600k and ddr4
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Its a tough one this, if you go 12600K it looks like it will be a bit faster than AMD at lower resolutions, but I'm not sure the "platform economics" are there though. Where do you go for more performance after the 12600K ?, not the 12900K its only ~3% faster on average. The AM4 choice, you have the 5900x and 5950x above the 5800x (probably a similar argument to be had to that of the 12900K in upgrades mind) but then the 3d V cache parts next year could well prove a very reasonable upgrade path for only the cost of a CPU.

Personally, I would still be buying my 5600x and cheaper AM4 MB today, nothing I have seen has made me regret this only a month ago.

***Edit, Raptor Lake is a drop in upgrade, tough choice then ***
 
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I can easy run DDR5 7000mhz on with ASUS APEX, Formula etc etc....

So I think most boards given time can run high speed...
 
Dave2150 said:
Raptor lake will be a drop in upgrade that will probably launch before or at a similar time to the Zen 3 refresh. Though Zen3 still stuck on DDR4 and PCI-Ev4....
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For once i agree with Dave, after Zen 3D the AM4 platform is deadend.
 
How does that cheap DDR5 Crucial kit everyone is buying compare to a 3600Mhz DDR4 CL16 memory? Will it be significantly slower in gaming?
 
8 Pack said:
I can easy run DDR5 7000mhz on with ASUS APEX, Formula etc etc....

So I think most boards given time can run high speed...
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Have you had a play with the Maximus glacier.

Did I spend well :D ?

Or do I need to go cry in a corner.
 
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