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Alder Lake-S leaks

100c for coolers not fully optimized for Alder Lake and mid 90s for those supported out of the box in hardware unboxed review:eek:

Yeah the power draw at high load on ADL is insane, about 130 Watts higher system power than the 5950X, 355 Watts vs 220.

That's crazy. again its twice the power of the 5950X. over 250 Watts for the CPU alone.
 
Any aida64 screenshots?

I do think the numbers look good but I do think the Z690 platform could be a little bit of a trap. When better DDR5 memory does come out are these even high end boards actually going to have the traces to support numbers people would consider good (say 8000 C32 as a ballpark number). Even if the boards do maybe the CPU can't handle it?
 
That heat is an added cast to the platform, the 5950X can run comfortably on a £45 air cooler, the 12900K need something much more exotic and still roast with it.

Winter is here..... :D
 
Looks like i made the right decision to not buy into Alder lake, it seems its faster but not by much and most 1440p and above benchmarks are pretty much negligible when it comes to performance gain.

As someone else had mentioned too AM4 platform could be EOL after Zen 3D so maybe next year isn't looking too likely as an upgrade option until AMD brings out it's next platform AM5 and Intel's Raptor lake. By then we should see much cheaper DDR5 and much better speeds and timings too.
 
Nice indeed, 2% slower than a 12900k, I'll take that, same when O/C'd @ 5.0, HWUB said the 12900k doesn't overclock well

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A single digit advantage at 1080P over Zen 3 is not that great when Zen 3D has a 15% advantage over Zen 3.

EDIT: And TPU use DDR5 6000 C36. Good luck getting that at a reasonable price.
 
Looks like i made the right decision to not buy into Alder lake, it seems its faster but not by much and most 1440p and above benchmarks are pretty much negligible when it comes to performance gain.

As someone else had mentioned too AM4 platform could be EOL after Zen 3D so maybe next year isn't looking too likely as an upgrade option until AMD brings out it's next platform AM5 and Intel's Raptor lake. By then we should see much cheaper DDR5 and much better speeds and timings too.


Its not that convincing is it?

The thing is looking at the boarder picture it seems Intel are having to go to ever more extremes to fight with AMD, these massive cores that are 3X the size of Zen 3 cores, the insane power consumption.

If all AMD did was Zen 3D with no other changes they would be back on top again.

Zen 4 is rumoured to have a 30 to 40% IPC advantage over Zen 3 and they will probably bump the core count up to 24 cores, rumours are they are working on a 16 core CCD, so it could be 32 cores with that IPC gain on mainstream.
 
Thinking I might stay DDR4 afterall I have 16gb 3600 8 Pack C16, Will save me £300 and not even bother going to 32gb, 16 still enough?
Think 16gb is becoming the old 8gb is enough for gaming, i recently upgraded to 32gb and found much smoother gameplay on Far Cry 6 compared to 16gb which gave me a lot of stutters and jitters. Take that what you will but i think from now on 32gb will be the norm.
 
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