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Alder Lake-S leaks

mrk said:
DDR4 is not going anywhere for at least 2 generations. Raptor Lake-S next year will still support it too and reading around, the uptake of DDR5 vs availability/pricing issues may well last longer than some think. So for low latency DDR4 owners, this is good news, can have at least 2 generations of Alder Lake (and maybe even beyond??) and still yielding great performance in gaming.
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LGA1700 might remain for many generations, but don't assume the CPUs with the same amount of pins will work. If you buy into a platform when new, assume you'll get two bites at the usefulness of the board in terms of upgrades. Check the Z170/270/370/390/490/590 for instances where even this wasn't 100% true.
 
Journey said:
LGA1700 might remain for many generations, but don't assume the CPUs with the same amount of pins will work. If you buy into a platform when new, assume you'll get two bites at the usefulness of the board in terms of upgrades. Check the Z170/270/370/390/490/590 for instances where even this wasn't 100% true.
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When Ryzen came out with the commitment to AM4, while intel were forcing motherboard upgrades on us willy nilly, I wished I had gone AMD.
Dropping in a new CPU for a 3/4 generation upgrade sounds like a dream.
No extra mobo expense, no stripping the whole system down or replacing the mounting kit for the cooler etc...

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy building a PC, I just think the intel way is excessive. I hope they either commit to a few generations on a platform, or that AMD do it again. Or both. It's been shown that it can be done. Even past sockets have been shown to work with newer intel CPUs that are supposedly incompatible.
 
mrk said:
Interesting, I have not ran the Puget bench for LR as when I installed the plugin files and tried to run it it complained about not being able to find some file it was expecting to fetch so just did the next best thing and used LR how I normally do to compare against hence the timings.

With LR I think it goes beyond just the puget benches. A lot of factors come into play when in the develop module, the settings you have in the performance tab for GPU matter too for example as a lot of the develop module is now fully GPU accelerated, as well as GPU drivers being used etc.

For me both import, editing and exporting appear to be a huge leap faster. Clicking between edited RAW images in develop module is as quick as in the library module now and edits are applied from my presets list instantly as I hover over them to preview a preset over any image in develop module. These would take a few ms extra which could be noticed on the 6700K, not so any more!
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Sounds fantastic :) For me, saving a big chunk of time importing, building previews and exporting would be brilliant. For editing, I use a Logitech Pro RGB keyboard which I've programmed some of the keys to use different colours and custom macro functions, such as a single key press to copy all the develop settings from the previous photo to this one, F2 to open and edit the photo in photoshop etc. I don't currently use any presets, though should look into them.

I don't think GPU performance makes a huge difference during develop, but using any discrete GPU does over using the CPU only. I suspect a 3080 from the 12700k stats is a lot more than 12% faster than my ancient 1070Ti :D
Building 1:1 previews before you do any editing is the secret to moving between RAW images quickly in develop :) It used to frustrate me navigating quickly between photos as it it starts lagging. I rarely get that these days unless I press the right arrow quickly about a dozen times.

My desktops have always been Intel based, so will likely keep it that way. I was tempted by AMD when Zen3 first came out, but then you couldn't buy anything and I survived another year with my current system. I'll wait and see what Zen 3D brings before making any decision.
 
Distracted said:
Dropping in a new CPU for a 3/4 generation upgrade sounds like a dream.
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Doubt it will happen again from any vendor, but only time will tell I guess. Interestingly I just had a Beta BIOS for an IMB ASRock board and the release notes state support for "Update AGESA code to support new Generation CPU" so that's gonna be the new 3DCache parts. :)
 
Distracted said:
When Ryzen came out with the commitment to AM4, while intel were forcing motherboard upgrades on us willy nilly, I wished I had gone AMD.
Dropping in a new CPU for a 3/4 generation upgrade sounds like a dream.
No extra mobo expense, no stripping the whole system down or replacing the mounting kit for the cooler etc...

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy building a PC, I just think the intel way is excessive. I hope they either commit to a few generations on a platform, or that AMD do it again. Or both. It's been shown that it can be done. Even past sockets have been shown to work with newer intel CPUs that are supposedly incompatible.
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AMD certainly won't do it again with AM5 if they are in a strong position, they didn't even want to do it with AM4 but backtracked on 400 series support.
 
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I wonder if ADL is like previous gen where only the i9 has Adaptive Boost (ABT), hence all secondary cores get much higher boost. Possibly why the 12900K runs quite a lot hotter than the 12700K.
 
JohnStewart said:
Sounds fantastic :) For me, saving a big chunk of time importing, building previews and exporting would be brilliant. For editing, I use a Logitech Pro RGB keyboard which I've programmed some of the keys to use different colours and custom macro functions, such as a single key press to copy all the develop settings from the previous photo to this one, F2 to open and edit the photo in photoshop etc. I don't currently use any presets, though should look into them.

I don't think GPU performance makes a huge difference during develop, but using any discrete GPU does over using the CPU only. I suspect a 3080 from the 12700k stats is a lot more than 12% faster than my ancient 1070Ti :D
Building 1:1 previews before you do any editing is the secret to moving between RAW images quickly in develop :) It used to frustrate me navigating quickly between photos as it it starts lagging. I rarely get that these days unless I press the right arrow quickly about a dozen times.

My desktops have always been Intel based, so will likely keep it that way. I was tempted by AMD when Zen3 first came out, but then you couldn't buy anything and I survived another year with my current system. I'll wait and see what Zen 3D brings before making any decision.
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Sometimes I forget to generate 1:1 previews as in a hurry and then cba to manually click through to do it lol. I will have to do a test of develop module use with and without 1:1 previews generated. I've got a shoot tomorrow so will have a fresh batch of images to import and process so will see what's what there. So far in a set that has no 1:1 previews, only standard, things are very snappy in develop, Obviously quiicker in 1:1 preview generated sets though.

rare said:
Off topic but - I never knew this!!
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:D
 
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