Alex Jones..

Roar87 said:
Ok so looking into it, he checked the crime records for Newtown in 2012 and no murders were reported, but the murders had actually been reported on a different register because it was investigated by the state Police rather than local Police. So his claims were false, but he did have a reason as to why he said it.
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I don't think you're making the point you think you're making ...
 
MikeTheNative said:
Did you accidentally quote me? I like forgotten weapons even though i don't like guns and I think youtube was heavy handed in that case.
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I don't think so, I'm of the same opinion. Came across the channels when looking into the P90 (fascinated how that works) Ending up being a little history channel for me in some ways as he gives context on how and why a weapon was built like it did.

I wonder if music videos glorifying guns have be banned or demonetised
 
The thing is there are hundreds of channels on YouTube and other platforms that sprout crazy claims about almost everything, whether it's politics, religion or Aliens.

So basically it's fine so long as nobody is watching your content. :D
 
No, it's fine so long as you don't violate their terms.

That's why I find it amusing people are going on about Youtube being too political and banning right-wing stuff they don't agree with because they are a liberal corporation, yadda-yadda.

If you are watching right-wing Youtube stuff, then the reality doesn't support the theory.
 
Shocky-FM said:
The thing is there are hundreds of channels on YouTube and other platforms that sprout crazy claims about almost everything, whether it's politics, religion or Aliens.

So basically it's fine so long as nobody is watching your content. :D
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Well partly, many democrats directly blame AJ for swinging the election in Trump's favour.
 
VincentHanna said:
No, it's fine so long as you don't violate their terms.

That's why I find it amusing people are going on about Youtube being too political and banning right-wing stuff they don't agree with because they are a liberal corporation, yadda-yadda.

If you are watching right-wing Youtube stuff, then the reality doesn't support the theory.
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Again they are not technically right wing, they classify themselves as Libertarian or even classical liberals, all for prosperity, mild patriotism and reduced censorship.

The so-called current liberals are just a cult of dopes.
 
Evangelion said:
It's funny that the people who believe bakers should be allowed to refuse service to gay couples are the same people who believe social media companies shouldn't be allowed to enforce their own terms of service.
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The baker case was a little different in that they were not refusing service in the general sense but declining to produce a specifically commisoned piece with a politically charged message on it deliberately formed to create the reaction.

I think most here would just be happy with some consistency from these companies re their t+c's.

Although one of the normal chief offenders, twitter, has refused to follow suit to ban Jones citing that he hasn't actually broken their rules which is refreshing considering some rather recent hiccups on their platform like giving Candice Owens a short break before reconsidering after she re posted Sarah Yeong's tweets substituting the word 'white' for 'jew(ish)' and 'black'
 
Evangelion said:
It's funny that the people who believe bakers should be allowed to refuse service to gay couples are the same people who believe social media companies shouldn't be allowed to enforce their own terms of service.
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There is a distinct difference between a service accessed by millions in a "Free public space" where the comparative alternatives are near non existent and a Bakery where two streets other there's an equally good bakery more than willing. Youtube, Facebook, Twitter etc are equivalent to Banks with the level of impact they can have. A mere single bakery chain? It's not comparable from a Liberal perspective imho.
 
Caracus2k said:
Although one of the normal chief offenders, twitter, has refused to follow suit to ban Jones citing that he hasn't actually broken their rules which is refreshing considering some rather recent hiccups on their platform like giving Candice Owens a short break before reconsidering after she re posted Sarah Yeong's tweets substituting the word 'white' for 'jew(ish)' and 'black'
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Just looked that up, it does seem to highlight some double standards at play. Even though she's made clear the intent and the fact she's simply swapping the words over. Obvs that is also why she's able to get the suspension reversed.

Clearly if someone had tweeted original tweets along those lines regarding black or Jewish people they'd be liable to be suspended or banned. The fact the multiple white people tweets made over a long period of time didn't cause any repercussions does highlight an obvious double standard. While I suspect some of these alt right types have been breaking rules there seems to be a decent amount of bias in terms of the people and organisations allowed.
 
rawuk said:
There is a distinct difference between a service accessed by millions in a "Free public space" where the comparative alternatives are near non existent and a Bakery where two streets other there's an equally good bakery more than willing.
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But the principle remains the same: are businesses allowed to enforce their own terms of service, or not? You agree to Facebook's terms of service when you sign up. Having done so, you can't bitch and whine when you want to break those terms with impunity later on.

'Oh, but they're a virtual monopoly!' So what? That's irrelevant.
 
Now i am no supporter of Alex Jones and his Info wars channel is a little crazy at times but he has his freedom of speech. The issue here for me is that all of the social media platforms have axed him in a short space of time, like they all planned to do it. If they get away with this, what is there to stop them from doing this again in the future. Its a potential political weapon that the social media companies can just execute someone online for having a different opinion.
 
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