Caporegime
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Alex Jones..
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Yes with in the law anyway, but it is trampling all over his freedom of speech.
Well no, private companies are regulated by the government. We have things like the FCA, OFCOM, OFGEM, etc. There's nothing that currently monitors social media, and these companies have a lot of power. I believe that freedom of expression should apply on social media platforms, just as it does on any public forum.
Hand up, i made a mistake, some social media platforms have.
Soldato
How?
I disagree; these are not public platforms but private platforms that allow elements of information to be accessible publicly. The only power these companies wield is what users have freely given them. More fool them!
Just because they don't want to give him a platform to spew his idiocy that does not mean his 'freedom of speech' is being infringed.
Soldato
Wow I still am surprised when people say this nonsense.
How on earth is someone not free to speak just because they can't put a video on YouTube. Mental gymnastics or what.
He can continue saying everything he's ever said before, AND YOU KNOW THAT, yet still think he's not free to speak.
Really? Really? Really?
Commissario
I suspect once one of them had the guts to drop him the others followed suit not because of some conspiracy or because they wanted to "execute someone online for having a different opinion", but because they were ready to drop him anyway and worried about any reaction if they were the first.
It's not about companies having an issue with different opinions, it's about companies not wanting someone who is utterly rabid and a huge stain on the underwear of the media using their resources to peddle actively harmful materials and leaving them open to being sued in conjunction with him if/when he steps over the mark again.
Facebook has 2.23 billion active users, I would say they have transcended being a private forum, they are very much now the primary domain of public speech.
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Where is the line for Freedom of Speech advocates? Should ISIS be allowed a platform on youtube?
Soldato
exactly. i don't understand how they will use the argument "where does it stop", but then completely blank the obvious argument of "where is the line".
Soldato
Says you. It is still a private company providing a private platform to its several billion users. I do not subscribe to Facebook. It neither forms or serves any part of my public domain.
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Ok, valid point
Well ISIS is advocating violence and murder, Alex Jones isn't doing that, Freedom of Speech doesn't cover threats or inciting violence towards others.
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"Glorifying violence" was one of the reasons he get removed, alongside “using dehumanizing language to describe people who are transgender, Muslims and immigrants.”
What you mentioned is exactly why he has been removed.
no its not, not in the slightest. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you have to provide a platform or be shielded from criticism.
Wow dude bit snidey aren't you?
If you think a virtual monopoly shouldn't be legislated differently to a single manned bakery than lord have mercy upon you.
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Just to edit in - I can understand the removal as reading back some posts indicate he has incited violence. News articles / Reddit posts I initially read pointed towards "Hate Speech" Which I detest as who defines what "Hate" is and relying on corporations to do that is practically Orwellian but that's a different topic.
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Soldato
does it cover you using facebook? nope thought not. want to have a think about it for 10 minutes and try again before coming back and looking foolish again.
Wow dude bit snidey aren't you?
If you think a virtual monopoly shouldn't be legislated differently to a single manned bakery than lord have mercy upon you.
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Just to edit in - I can understand the removal as reading back some posts indicate he has incited violence. News articles / Reddit posts I initially read pointed towards "Hate Speech" Which I detest as who defines what "Hate" is and relying on corporations to do that is practically Orwellian but that's a different topic.
No it shouldn't i though the right wing believed in small government and lack of regulations?
But as soon as it hurts Wittle ol' far-right loonies, REEEEEEEEEEEEEE. I truly welcome the corporate hegemony that is coming, why don't you, or are you indeed a communist instead? /s
This is what the entire debate is about, whether freedom of speech SHOULD cover social media since so many of us are using it, not what it CURRENTLY covers. FFS.