Aliens and UFOs explained on Google Video

dmpoole said:
No because it will be invaded by 100's of alien species doing wheelies in their craft of all shapes and sizes while we blast lasers at them.
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We will get them next time though! :mad: Then we will SNED TEHM BACK! :D
 
I've started a new thread in speaker’s corner which has even better evidence in it.

Naffa that's just the latest official explanation and there are plenty of people who disagree as you can imagine. A nice bit of logic I like to apply is that which is used in most courts. If a witness has a history of lying, then extra ordinary measures must be taken to confirm the content of what they presently claim.

The official explanation has changed at least 3 times, they can't all be true therefore all that can be said is that lies have been told at some point by the government - the feds - whoever it is the dispenses this information. They could come out tomorrow and say aliens crashed in Roswell and half the people listening would say they are lying.

The best course of action is to move on, move onto newer evidence that hasn't been corrupted thus far. At this point, if anyone is still interested in the new and improved evidence and discussion I have two links.

1. This video is a History Channel documentary with compelling evidence for UFOs. Actually it's a compellation of 3 History channel documentaries but the first 45 minutes is the best... these documentaries should tip the opinion of even the ignorant denier and are recommended viewing for unconvinced skeptics! They present cases of UFOs which clearly demonstrate craft which manoeuvre with disregard for mechanical laws and which often demonstrate intelligence.

Enjoy: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8285709939745631584

2. The new thread where this discussion is continuing in speaker’s corner.
 
ritcH said:
I've started a new thread in speaker’s corner which has even better evidence in it.
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I won't go into details but about 15 years ago the BBC did a marvellous experiment on evidence and witness accounts involving the actions of three people.

The upshot was that only 1 person in 200 people actually saw what really happened and the rest would have given their false evidence at a court :eek:

200 people look up at an object in the sky and 200 people will have differing views. There is no corruption of evidence.
 
I'm watching the Billy Meier video, and although I don't believe any of this has happened. It's very interesting! lol Purely from an imaginational point of view, some of the things they're saying have happened would make quite interesting episodes in some Sci-Fi series :D

By the way, http://www.billymeier.com/ if you visit the space boy's site ( :p ) click on the 'Scientific Evidence' link :D Quite ironic.
 
Andelusion said:
I'm watching the Billy Meier video, and although I don't believe any of this has happened. It's very interesting! lol Purely from an imaginational point of view, some of the things they're saying have happened would make quite interesting episodes in some Sci-Fi series :D

By the way, http://www.billymeier.com/ if you visit the space boy's site ( :p ) click on the 'Scientific Evidence' link :D Quite ironic.
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yeah... i just watched thw whole thing.... interesting .. thats all i can say really
 
I'm with Dave on this one. I'd be more willing to believe we were being visited by people from our own future than by Aliens.
 
Aliens do exist and they all exist in, fly over, are covered up in and have been sighted in the US and the super-long-and-cool phrase of 'military industrial complex' :) :)

Honestly, this is what makes Team America so funny.
 
The main problem I have with Aliens and their craft is that over the last 50 years there have been 1000's upon 1000's of sightings and 1000's of pictures with witness accounts and if we add them all up we'll find that there is about 500 Alien species driving about 500 different shaped craft.
This means that Earth must be like some motorway services station with them all popping off here for a stay over. I loved this stuff when I was a teenager but what would make it more believable to me was if from 50 years ago all the aliens were greys and all the aircraft was of one design.
 
dmpoole you should read this - it explains many of your posts! The question is do you know you're doing it?

I can consistently address all of the ill thought out issues you raise precisely because they ARE ill thought out... but you just come back with 10 more. You just wear me out. However, one last time...

500 different shapes huh? Can you even name 50 different shapes? No - I didn't think so, stop making up ridiculous unsubstantiated facts and pretending there is an ounce of truth to them. Quite frankly your "main problem" changes with every post, which pretty much makes what you say worthless.

Next... 1 in 200 people accurately report what they saw. Okay, to explain this one I'm going to draw your attention to a man called Dr. Richard Haines who in his own words (at 1:47:55 on this video) :

"[was] a NASA research scientist uhh.. since the mid 60's. I started my research in the area of visual perception and optics and lighting... and studying some problems for the uh... Gemini Program - a 2 man capsule program that was orbital. And during the ah... umm... early stages, of that research I had a laboratory, which would allow me to simulate the way things looked to the astronauts in outer space. And ahh... I could totally fool the observer. I could set up a situation that he or she could NOT accurately describe. The sh-shape and size and distance of targets would just be under my control. I could set up a triangular shaped target and what you would see was a circle. I could set up a rectangle - a 4 to 1 rectangle - and you would see a hotdog because of light scatter within the human eye.

Well I set out to disprove UFO ahh... as anything mystical or ahh... very, very strange because I was able to do this in the laboratory. I could ahh... allow you to misidentify something and so I set out to disprove the whole thing as a skeptic. Well it wasn't very long before I realised that, I was wrong, that in fact these objects are not misidentified natural phenomena. Some of them are - but not very many and one thing led to another and I was uhh... led into talking to pilots and I've been specialising in pilot sightings ever since."

humm.. who do I believe. The BBC world renowned expert investigators *cough* or a NASA scientist whose job it was to disprove UFOs as natural phenomena and tricks of the mind? Let me see...

Again the whole video is here for anyone who is interested.

In the future don't take my lack of response to dmpoole as him having a point. It's just that I no longer have the energy answer his pointless conjecture.
 
dmpoole said:
The main problem I have with Aliens and their craft is that over the last 50 years there have been 1000's upon 1000's of sightings and 1000's of pictures with witness accounts and if we add them all up we'll find that there is about 500 Alien species driving about 500 different shaped craft.
This means that Earth must be like some motorway services station with them all popping off here for a stay over. I loved this stuff when I was a teenager but what would make it more believable to me was if from 50 years ago all the aliens were greys and all the aircraft was of one design.
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Very true. The odds of one alien species reaching Earth is extremely slim, let alone all these different types.

Little green men, tall grey men, ones with long necks, ones with huge eyes and no nose, ones with antennas on their heads. So many witnesses accounts that describe all different types. It would be slightly more believeable if all these people described the same alien across the world without corresponding with each other—at least then there would be a distinguishable pattern to the sightings.

All these different species also get up to a multitude of activities too. For such busy aliens they don't half keep hidden. Some whiz about showing off their lights, others abduct us, some land and break into our homes, some crash land in deserts, some follow our spaceships, some live on the moon, some live on Mars, some look like us and walk amongst us, some have mated with us. What a bunch of busy-bodies!
 
ritcH said:
500 different shapes huh? Can you even name 50 different shapes? No - I didn't think so, stop making up ridiculous unsubstantiated facts and pretending there is an ounce of truth to them. Quite frankly your "main problem" changes with every post, which pretty much makes what you say worthless.
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I'll get back to the other points later but just type UFO in Google Images for a start and I haven't even tried it.

Saucer shaped UFO's with one light, two lights, three lights, four lights and so on. Blue lights, red lights, green lights and so on. Saucer shapes with bits on the top, on the bottom, on the side and so one.
Next lets start on the cigar shaped ones etc etc
Then the triangular ones etc etc.
I bet my estimate of 500 is actually more when every eye witness report is taken into account.

Before about 15 years ago Aliens were all shapes and sizes and colours but it seems that most eye witnesses now see Greys. Its taken a long time to get down to one alien shape but I knew we'd get there. I'm waiting for the spaceship to become one shape. And then theres the activities - well we all know that Greys anal probe. And none of them ever make contact with people with an IQ of more than 5.

I'll get back to the BBC thing tonight.

And stop linking to videos that are total crap that we've all seen a million times before and say nothing.
 
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ritcH said:
dmpoole you should read this - it explains many of your posts! The question is do you know you're doing it?
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Classic reply from a believer who has no proof. I too am quite old with a massive interest in sci-fi an dwhen I was a teenager a massive interst in UFOs and aliens but after decades we still get the same old regurgitated fils and witness accounts. It saddens me to say that all my teenage fantasies have been squashed because I now know there are no aliens visiting earth and not ever likely to. I'll keep watching Star Trek in the hope that one day a ship does land in my back garden and they give me a good probing. What I need is proof and there is none or any other paranormal proof for that matter. if you have proof James Randi will give you a million dollars for it. I am open but theres nothing to throw into my empty vessel and not likely to be.
I also don't think the five hundred space craft is far off either after all the books I've read over the last forty years.
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“The main problem I have with Aliens and their craft is that over the last 50 years there have been 1000's upon 1000's of sightings and 1000's of pictures with witness accounts and if we add them all up we'll find that there is about 500 Alien species driving about 500 different shaped craft.”
If Aliens changed spaceships as often as we changed cars then that seems normal and explainable. Think of how many cars have came out over the past 50 years. What about just planes?

Who’s to say Aliens don’t have fashion and lots of companies competing against each other.





“Saucer shaped UFO's with one light, two lights, three lights, four lights and so on. Blue lights, red lights, green lights and so on. Saucer shapes with bits on the top, on the bottom, on the side and so one.”
I have a 4x4 challenger car. I have seen 100+ challenger cars and none look like mine and they all look different. Some have extra lights, some extra parts. Whos to say if spaceships are real they dont have many versions.
 
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dmpoole said:
What I can't get over is that theres people in this thread that actually believe there are 100's of UFO's doing wheelies just outside our atmosphere and Governments are firing lasers at them.
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its not "goverments" its the United Nations Space Forces silly. Youve obviously not been reading up on your Nazi Moonbase history...
 
lol no proof?

Have you even read this thread?

I'm going to be quiet now. In a couple of months the French government will be releasing their UFO files. Then I'll resume my interest but until then it has been fun...
 
Pottsey said:

If Aliens changed spaceships as often as we changed cars then that seems normal and explainable. Think of how many cars have came out over the past 50 years. What about just planes?

I have a 4x4 challenger car. I have seen 100+ challenger cars and none look like mine and they all look different. Some have extra lights, some extra parts. Whos to say if spaceships are real they dont have many versions.
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Bad analogy.
A car is a car.
It has 1 wheel in each corner, a wheel to steer with, lights at the front, lights at the back, a window at the front and sides and maybe at the back as well.
UFO's are all shapes and sizes and don't conform to a standard.
I don't think Aliens put go faster stripes down their craft.
 
Pottsey said:
“The main problem I have with Aliens and their craft is that over the last 50 years there have been 1000's upon 1000's of sightings and 1000's of pictures with witness accounts and if we add them all up we'll find that there is about 500 Alien species driving about 500 different shaped craft.”
If Aliens changed spaceships as often as we changed cars then that seems normal and explainable. Think of how many cars have came out over the past 50 years. What about just planes?

Who’s to say Aliens don’t have fashion and lots of companies competing against each other


“Saucer shaped UFO's with one light, two lights, three lights, four lights and so on. Blue lights, red lights, green lights and so on. Saucer shapes with bits on the top, on the bottom, on the side and so one.”
I have a 4x4 challenger car. I have seen 100+ challenger cars and none look like mine and they all look different. Some have extra lights, some extra parts. Whos to say if spaceships are real they dont have many versions.
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Maybe spaceships are of different shapes due to different types. Some travel at warp ( :rolleyes: ) whilst others are designed for long range anal probing.

What about the multitude of different alien species described? If we collated all the sightings together, you would find that, according to these people, about 20 different alien species have visited Earth.
 
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