Aliens channel four friday ninth sept 2011

great film. just watched it for the 54th million time - still has the tension, surprise, drama of the first viewing. The emotional impact with newt+ripley interaction is amazing. The specials effects are solid and only look dated due to not being 'conventional' cgi. Loads of props and sets, and a very 'storyboard' style of directing. Great quotes and lines, loads of now famous actors . And how much do you wanna punch burke in the face. repeatedly.
 
great film. just watched it for the 54th million time - still has the tension, surprise, drama of the first viewing. The emotional impact with newt+ripley interaction is amazing. The specials effects are solid and only look dated due to not being 'conventional' cgi. Loads of props and sets, and a very 'storyboard' style of directing. Great quotes and lines, loads of now famous actors . And how much do you wanna punch burke in the face. repeatedly.

Despite having watched it a dozen times easily, I still jump at the same parts, still get pulled into the tension/emotions in some of the scenes, etc. like its the first time I can't remember any other movie that can do it to that level on repeat watching. Aside from sometimes being able to detect scaled models are being used in some parts, etc. I don't consider the effects dated.
 
The TV showing is always the Directors Cut (or at least an extended version) these days. And am I the only person here mature enough to not find the sentry guns arousing? Watching people bang on and on about them makes me feel like I'm back at school again. The scene with them is just silly: they are suddenly introduced, used too much, then thrown away again. The only thing wrong with removing them is that it leaves the biggest plot hole: how the aliens are getting into the colony. Watching the original when it first came out, that part made no sense, and seeing the extended version explains the gap. But the amount of man-love for some special effects is just silly.


M
 
the one scene that annoys me in the special edition is when ripley/gorman etc get out of the APC to head into the complex; the audio for that ~5 second bit is woeful! really surprised they didn't try and clean it up.

minor annoyance, but annoyance none-the-less :p

aside from that, this is quite possibly my favourite movie of all time, a true great
 
There's only one scene in this Special Edition which I think is stupid. Stupid as in cringeworthy really. See if you spot it. :D

I've not watched it for ages, but is it one of the additional dialogue scenes?

I'm sure there is one where Hudson goes off on one and it's just plain ridiculous.


Trying to find the Special Edition before DVDs were about was like gold dust, as it was never released on video in the UK. I remember a mate having a recording of it on VHS from one time where it was shown on TV, but still had loads of cuts. Every other time it was on TV it was the normal version, but again with cuts.
 
I've not watched it for ages, but is it one of the additional dialogue scenes?

I'm sure there is one where Hudson goes off on one and it's just plain ridiculous.

I got used to that. No, it's the scene in the dropship where Ripley is about to go down the lift to get Newt...

RIPLEY - See you, Hicks.
HICKS - Dwayne. It's Dwayne.

They share a moment, albeit brief. Mutual respect in the valley of death.

RIPLEY - Ellen.
HICKS - (nods in satisfaction) - Don't be gone long, Ellen.
 
The TV showing is always the Directors Cut (or at least an extended version) these days. And am I the only person here mature enough to not find the sentry guns arousing? Watching people bang on and on about them makes me feel like I'm back at school again. The scene with them is just silly: they are suddenly introduced, used too much, then thrown away again. The only thing wrong with removing them is that it leaves the biggest plot hole: how the aliens are getting into the colony. Watching the original when it first came out, that part made no sense, and seeing the extended version explains the gap. But the amount of man-love for some special effects is just silly.


M

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1. The shear awesome amount of firepower they produce and the real scifi nature of them (yeah dropships are nice and scifi but they are in all futuristic films).
2. The fact the scenes show the shear number of Aliens that are around. It's never said (other than the suggestion of over 100 colonists) how many there are and those scenes show there are potentially dozens getting slaughtered.

It still doesn't clear up why they get into the compound though. Suddenly they appear in the ceiling with no explanation, somehow missed by the soldiers. That, alongside the standing off of the original dropship to the nearest building with its ramp wide open make the least sense in the entire film.
 
It still doesn't clear up why they get into the compound though. Suddenly they appear in the ceiling with no explanation, somehow missed by the soldiers.

As Ripley says, "They found a way in, something we missed. Something under the floor, not on the plans. I don't know!"

Nobody knows. :)
 
I tend to think of it as a plot device, the Aliens have always been described as being able to adapt, like when they cut the power :)

A colony like that would have untold unofficial modifications :) obviously I'm not expert on non terrestrial colonies, but it's entirely feasible.
 
I know, unfortunately that sort of thing is also used so many times in films as a plot hole that now every time I see them all I think is "obviuosly they ouldn't be bothered to think of an actual way for them to come in". They could be shown adapting whilst still covering that hole up (such as the escape of the Aliens in later films by using their acid).

Oh yeah and also the "quick weld the doors together"... oh wait, why is there a massive door there when the wall has a two foot gap above it, covered by thin tiles...
 
Can't say that has ever bothered me, I've just accepted that they were resourceful and persistant, after all they don't just keep piling up on the sentries once they realise they can't just charge past them and a colony base like that over the years would have seen many major modifications in the field to suit changing times and needs that wouldn't have been in the original spec or requirement, also earlier on they mention the useage of survey charges, etc. so its not impossible a bulkhead somewhere is blown and so on.

Not sure why the sentry gun scene should be immature its a nice touch the expands on the scifi nature of the movie and gives a brief false sense of security that intensifies the tension once they become ineffective.


If your gonna be picky theres plenty of times where their military tactics fall short i.e. crossing each others line of fire when theres plenty of space to go around, the afore mentioned poorly secured dropship and so on.
 
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