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Torres in form? Come off it.


That is form. What is wrong with you? In form? My god.
 
Yeah it's hard not to laugh at the very notion that Torres is anywhere close to being in form. Chelsea have yet to catch a glimpse of the Torres they paid £50m for, to be fair Liverpool didn't see much of him the last year he was there either :p.
 
Sturridge may do until /if hte Hulk sale goes through as expected
surely Chelsea need Sturridge because of the home grown players rule, marginalising him seems like a bad idea. Another reason not to sign Hulk.

I assume he's saying that Chelsea have no problem retaining players even when Barca, Real or City want them. Robben went to Real, but Mourinho had lost patience with Robben's 'injuries' by that point and didn't want him anyway.
 
I assume he's saying that Chelsea have no problem retaining players even when Barca, Real or City want them. Robben went to Real, but Mourinho had lost patience with Robben's 'injuries' by that point and didn't want him anyway.

Yeah that's what I was afraid of, obviously doesn't occur to him that Chelsea have simply never had players that have actually been courted by the likes of Real & Barca before. I guess that's a blessing though because unlike United they've never had to deal with the likes of Real sniffing around for the likes of Beckham, RVN & Ronaldo.

Hazard though has never made any bones about the fact that his long term future is in Spain.
 
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...sniffing around for the likes of Beckham, RVN & Ronaldo
I think that's somewhat true - it's really only been Cole (Ashley) Ivanovic, Essien, Carvalho etc. that have been linked with interest from bigger clubs, and of course those clubs in question have never willing to pay big fees and wages to mere defenders and robust midfielders.

Hazard though has never made any bones about the fact that his long term future is in Spain.
I haven't seen this, apart from the quote out of context last week, but if he's like Fabregas and makes a worthy contribution before moving on then it woud be difficult to be resentful.
 
Interesting, he only scored against Man Utd 3 times, I thought it was more.

3 goals against us for Liverpool (twice at OT) and once last season for Chelsea (again at OT).

I haven't seen this, apart from the quote out of context last week, but if he's like Fabregas and makes a worthy contribution before moving on then it woud be difficult to be resentful.

It's not so much about being resentful (I'm certainly not resentful over Ronaldo leaving) it's more the endless saga that comes with bringing in a player who makes it known from the start that you're not the club he wishes to end his career with (although granted that wasn't the case with Beckham and RVN it was more the public courting from those high up at Madrid that was the irritation with those transfers)
 
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It's not so much about being resentful (I'm certainly not resentful over Ronaldo leaving) it's more the endless saga that comes with bringing in a player who makes it known from the start that you're not the club he wishes to end his career with (although granted that wasn't the case with Beckham and RVN it was more the public courting from those high up at Madrid that was the irritation with those transfers)

Honestly, if Hazard (an attacking/scoring MF who you need and apparently had agreed terms with + SAF wanted him & MU only ever sign players he wants) actually chose to sign with you even after this media fueled saga mentioned Real or Barca in a leading interview you wouldn't want him? Even if he was one of the hottest prospects out there?
 
Honestly, if Hazard (an attacking/scoring MF who you need and apparently had agreed terms with + SAF wanted him & MU only ever sign players he wants) actually chose to sign with you even after this media fueled saga mentioned Real or Barca in a leading interview you wouldn't want him? Even if he was one of the hottest prospects out there?

It's not about not wanting the player it's more a case of not wanting the saga that comes along with said player, I'm not going to say I wish we never signed Ronaldo because of the endless speculation summer after summer that came with him but I'd certainly be mindful over it with any future signings. It's a little hard to answer your question in relation to Hazard though because I said all along I didn't feel he was what Man Utd needed (not compared to an actual central midfielder anyway).
 
its a bargain if its true what we are paying for kagawa,he will create allot of interest from Japan to united aswell,should be a nice bit of business
 
It's not about not wanting the player it's more a case of not wanting the saga that comes along with said player, I'm not going to say I wish we never signed Ronaldo because of the endless speculation summer after summer that came with him but I'd certainly be mindful over it with any future signings. It's a little hard to answer your question in relation to Hazard though because I said all along I didn't feel he was what Man Utd needed (not compared to an actual central midfielder anyway).

Ok.
By the way, are you actually aware that Hazard didn't say that the current club he's signing for is not the club he wants to end his career with?
You do know that his references to Real & Barca were just in response to media led questions?
 
its a bargain if its true what we are paying for kagawa,he will create allot of interest from Japan to united aswell,should be a nice bit of business

I really can't understand why he would choose Man.U. with all those other big clubs in for him.
It's a strange decision if you ask me.
Must be the money they offered his agent I guess. :shrug:
 
Ok.
By the way, are you actually aware that Hazard didn't say that the current club he's signing for is not the club he wants to end his career with?
You do know that his references to Real & Barca were just in response to media led questions?

I can understand why you may not have followed Hazard all that closely given that up until beating Bayern you didn't even have a cat in hells chance of signing him but the players reference to playing in Spain is much deeper than just an interview with the Daily Fail a few days ago. Hazard said months ago that long term he sees himself playing in Spain for Real or Barca.
 
I can understand why you may not have followed Hazard all that closely given that up until beating Bayern you didn't even have a cat in hells chance of signing him but the players reference to playing in Spain is much deeper than just an interview with the Daily Fail a few days ago. Hazard said months ago that long term he sees himself playing in Spain for Real or Barca.

I've probably followed the genuine saga closer than you have -

'England isn't exactly a million miles away, so it wouldn't be any great upheaval,' he said. 'It all depends on the project put to Eden and the ambition he senses from whoever he is talking to. Real like him, and he likes them but, as with any player, he would view Manchester United as an great opportunity.

'If Roman Abramovich really is providing funds to take Chelsea back to the top again, then they would be interesting, as well. He would consider that, for sure.'

That was how it started in January and it's documented in every stage in this thread here - http://forums.cfcnet.co.uk/index.php/topic/53409-official-terms-agreed-for-eden-hazard/ - if you can be bothered to read it all.
That thread has all the real details (if you ignore the **** from ITK's) and all the quotes from the horses mouth as to why he made he choice.
At no point does he say that long term sees himself at Real or Baaaarca.
 
I've probably followed the genuine saga closer than you have -

February 2011

Eden Hazard said:
‘I appreciate England a lot, Germany as well, but my characteristics correspond more to Spanish football.’ the 20-year old said.

‘Furthermore, this country corresponds to my temperament, the heat and the beautiful stadiums.’

February 2012

Eden Hazard said:
'Spain is perhaps more my style of game but (if I move there) it must be to either Barcelona or Real Madrid.'
 
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