The additional income more than likely comes from sponsorship deals, merchandise and all that other stuff. Big Ron Gourlay told the press that winning the Champions League would provide Chelsea with an additional £100m in revenue.
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The additional income more than likely comes from sponsorship deals, merchandise and all that other stuff. Big Ron Gourlay told the press that winning the Champions League would provide Chelsea with an additional £100m in revenue.
I think Chelsea might get a little more than Barca did last year just in terms of the prize money, but the more significant changes to the balance sheet must surely be getting some of the older players off the payroll. Winning the CL probably doesn't do much for the status of Barca, Real, Utd, but for Chelsea it is a good step up in terms of stature (still behind the others obviously) but there may well be a small improvement in terms of worldwide fanbase, the amount of sponsorship etc.
I can't see FFP being a problem just yet - clubs are still allowed to make a massive, ridiculous loss for the first couple of years of FFP, and that's even after being allowed to disregard costs incurred in many areas.
I can't see FFP being a problem just yet - clubs are still allowed to make a massive, ridiculous loss for the first couple of years of FFP, and that's even after being allowed to disregard costs incurred in many areas.
How on earth do people keep thinking that Chelsea winning the CL will do anything for their fan base or popularity. They didn't play good football, were not enjoyable to watch and didn't come close to deserving to win the CL. How on earth would that get them new fans.
Was everyone raving about Greece after Euro 2004. Were people suddenly interested in Greek football or watching the national team play?
Who have we bought for big money?
and probably £60m or so is already spent (£20m for AVB and staff, £20m for initial Hazard payment, and ~£20m for Marin? who hasnt officially joined yet but agreed months ago) allow a few million either way for player / staff bonuses (incl FA Cup)
Even if that 100m is anywhere correct, Chelsea are probably going back into the red next season (even without the yearly sacking/ rehiring of a manager)
£12-14m is a big buy - get on your bike
Another nonsensical post from Cheets.
I agree on the second part though, it'd be sad seeing a once great player like Owen fighting a relegation scrap.
Another nonsensical post from Cheets.
I agree on the second part though, it'd be sad seeing a once great player like Owen fighting a relegation scrap.
Would Owen play enough to be involved in the scrap lol
It's not a difficult concept, for impressionable young minds: Champions of Europe = best team in Europe, and Europe has the best leagues in the world ∴ best team in Europe = best team in the world.
Of course it's facile, but that's how children think, and as soon as another team is 'best' a great many of them will switch allegiance. In the meantime you get a modest boost from merchandise sales, and in the long term a few of those young fans will stay true. The longer the continued success the more of the young fans will become genuine, loyal fans.
children would have fallen asleep from the turgid match being played, - so thats where your theory breaks down imo
So they are impressionable for that exact moment when Chelsea won the CL. Not when City won the league or Chelsea finished 6th in the league. Not when they were watching Chelsea getting beat on for the last 3 games of the competition.
I just don't think that winning the CL will do much for Chelsea in that respect.
1 = Torres is in form, he was very good indeed his last 6 games or so. He might not fire this season coming but so might not every other club's main striker.
2 = Almost every very talented young foreign player isn't tested in the PL, that comes with being young and foreign. Ronaldo (gay one), those FB twins & Tiny Pea at Man.U. for instance come under that category. You can't rebuild with the future in mind by buying players who are tested in the PL and good enough.
3 = It's pointless adding a player who we may theoretically have in to the mix especially if you don't understand how it's going to work in the 1st place. If we do get him that makes my next point even stronger.
4 = A lot of the rest of the team aren't getting on, that's a simple enough fact. Bertrand, De Bruyne, Marin, Romeu, Sturridge & Hutchinson are young and just waiting to get a chance in the 1st team, then to add more depth to the (probably not 1st choice) team there's people like Essien, Miereles, Malouda, Ferriera & Lukaku.
5 = No it won't, see above.
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Torres is not in form. I haven't seen anything to suggest that he is in form compared to his prime at Liverpool. His goal against Barca was a freebee at the end. When he starts scoring consistently we can talk about it. Like I said, we have no idea if he will ever come good. £50 million requires a player to do more than the average striker.
I don't see what you are getting at here. He is untested, he will be tested next season. Thats what being untested means. It doesn't mean he won't be the best player in the world within 3 years, it just means that we can't say how he will do.
p.s. Add up the transfer fees for Ronaldo, the twins and Chicharito and see how many Hazards you can get for that money.
It sounds like it is already done and everyone is putting him in their speculative Chelsea squad for next year. Doesn't matter how it is going to work though if he is not that great a player. Putting park as a CF won't make him a good player for United.
Of course, all those players will be happy to be on the bench the whole time. Don't worry about the large wages you have a lot of these older players on and the fact that young talent doesn't like being on the bench.
If Hazard has had assurances on playing time who will give way at the front. Torres, Mata?
if you offload a lot of the players that won't play much / don't want to sit on the bench then you won't have a strong second string.
Torres is in form, anyone who's seen all his games last season will tell you that. He's far better player now than the Torres we signed, his cost has nothing to do with your initial point.
I failed to see what you were getting at, of course he's untested. How are you supposed to build a team for the future if you are restricted to buying tried and tested players only. His cost has nothing to do with your initial point.
If Hulk joins Chelsea and adds nothing the squad (age, depth, cover, whatever) then it's worth worrying about him.
I see you're bringing money in to it again, is that what this is all about?
Are we supposed to have people on the bench who we don't have to pay? Is this how other clubs do it?
Or is that just the nature of modern football.
Maybe we won't offload a lot of the players who won't play much, that's what having a squad is all about.
That doesn't make him in form, in form he scores goals for fun, his goal vs Barca was a mere lump with hilarious goalkeeping, and his hat trick was an emile heskey hat trick
six games isnt really a lengthy run of form, and anyway playing with different players over the summer (if he even plays much) makes that club run null and void - given how long beofre his next club game (its not like a international weekend before immediately going back to club level after a few days)
given his dire form before those 6 games - and the length of that dire form, its much more likely he will revert to the same on re-joining Chelsea from Spain
Answer to 2 also comes into this
Totally agree with this (even though Chicharito has never been Utd's main striker/ goal getter, thats been Rooney since 2004).
However I would say Torres' life may (of course not definite) be a lot more difficult because of the number of players chelsea seam to be changing in the forward positions - Hulk & Hazard will probably have to work cloesely with Torres on the pitch, and being new to the EPL themselves, may take time to get up to speed . It may make no difference, but imo there will be a few months of getting used to how each other play.
Marin is hte new £30m german acquisition? - I think he will go into the 1st team squad straight away rather than the CC group of players myself (from the cost alone). Sturridge may do until /if hte Hulk sale goes through as expected
hmmm with the investment from the owner , Im not convinced a lot of the younger players will get a lot of time outside CC and maybe early FA Cup games
quite a few of them won't have even seen the match, or indeed watch football at all! it's a bit more than theory, I've had the dubious pleasure of having to consider this effect for work reasons.children would have fallen asleep from the turgid match being played, - so thats where your theory breaks down imo
Did you ever go to school? can you not now picture playgrounds across the country and around the world where the children are now arguing over which team is best: Chelsea or Man City. Imagine these children as behaving like everyone on the forum, except instead of keyboards and monitors, they have shouting
I think he was nearer the £7m mark than £30m, not sure where you got that from.
I don't quite follow that, if the owner has invested heavily in some of the best younger players available (arguably) why would a new manager not have them as 1st choice especially as our next manager will have the tools to rebuild on his appointment whereas AVB didn't really in his defence, but was also tactically & managerially inept to balance things out a bit.
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