All Three One Plans to be cancelled from today

Three keep on ringing me trying to offer me a free phone but on a higher contract. They have not yet mentioned to me that the One Plan will be no more, I am on a 30 day SIMO contract.

They are offering me less minutes and no tethering for £10 more a month than I pay now? :S I told them no...
 
Django x2 said:
Hey, chill it frat boy, You're missing the point.

There's a difference between unlimited data and unlimited tethering and the usages of such.

Glaucus could easily watch the same video using his phone, and this would fall under his unlimited data. But, because he believes (and probably rightly so) that the experience would be better watching it on his tablet or laptop, he chooses to tether that device to his phone.

The way laptops and some tablets handle data is far more bandwidth intense than for mobiles (mobile sites vs desktop sites for instance).

All we are discussing here is, should tethering be used for raping masses amounts of data when the "unlimited data" part of the tarrif should suffice most, normal users
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It's advertised as unlimited, so use as much as you want...

How's that hard to understand?
 
spoffle said:
Is there any need for the condescending way you're responding?

3000 doesn't mean unlimited, ergo there's a contradiction.
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Yes, the technical definition of unlimited is an infinite amount.

In the real world however, for most broadband and mobile data providers unlimited is usually constrained by a fair usage policy for obvious reasons.

I bet it mentioned something in the contract that everyone signed but didn't read! ;)
 
spoffle said:
Is there any need for the condescending way you're responding?

3000 doesn't mean unlimited, ergo there's a contradiction.
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The simple fact of the matter is that mobile operators (or anyone else for that matter) shouldn't be allowed to advertise something as unlimited when it's clearly not. It wasn't unlimited for texts and as soon as you mention fair usage policies it is, by definition, not unlimited for data. The problem is operators want to lure people in with unlimited this and that and when a tiny minority actually test the limits it's suddenly against fair usage (which wouldn't be necessary if they spec'd their systems for true unlimited usage).

Ultimately instead of "unlimited" the obvious route is to have sensible allowances at sensible prices all the way from 0Gb to ohmygodhowmuchGb to enable operators and individuals to choose what suits them. Unfortunately that then makes tariffs more transparent and stops the easyily advertised "unlimited" offers.
 
Am I right in assuming that those on contracts are being honoured and its only those that have fallen off the contracts that are getting these notices? For me I have the all in one plan its excellent - I use it a reasonable amount which probably puts me at max 10gb a month. Don't use the tethering that much but when I do its very useful...not had any notice from three and suspect that will continue to be the case. Will advise if this changes
 
Klo said:
Yes, the technical definition of unlimited is an infinite amount.
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No there's nothing technical about that definition. It's the definition of unlimited, not the technical one.

In the real world however, for most broadband and mobile data providers unlimited is usually constrained by a fair usage policy for obvious reasons.
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In the real world, companies are bound by the offers they put out. You sign a contract that stipulates unlimited data, ergo they can't limit it in any way, else you are not in receipt of the service you have signed up for.

Fair usage policies aren't legal, because of the very obvious notion that you can't claim something is unlimited, to only then limit it with a fair usage policy.

I bet it mentioned something in the contract that everyone signed but didn't read! ;)
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I bet you have no idea how contract law works. ";)"
 
AlecR said:
It's advertised as unlimited, so use as much as you want...

How's that hard to understand?
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It's not hard to understand, but neither is it hard to understand that if everyone continually takes as much as they possibly can, then it won't last long.

Which it hasn't.

There is legally nothing to stop people being enormous leeches and taking literally as much as they could possibly consume. It was permissible and completely allowed. But it is what has resulted in the discontinuation of this service. You don't have to like that, but it's how it's happened.
 
[TW]Fox;27170885 said:
It's not hard to understand, but neither is it hard to understand that if everyone continually takes as much as they possibly can, then it won't last long.

Which it hasn't.

There is legally nothing to stop being being enormous leeches and taking literally as much as they could possibly consume. It was permissible and completely allowed. But it is what has resulted in the discontinuation of this service. You don't have to like that, but it's a fact.
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Which means they shouldn't advertise a product that they can't actually supply.
 
spoffle said:
Which means they shouldn't advertise a product that they can't actually supply.
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Wow there cowboy. Three used to advertise unlimited and provided an unlimited service. They no longer advertise unlimited tethering as they don't wish to provide that as part of their service. They haven't done anything wrong.
 
Django x2 said:
The way laptops and some tablets handle data is far more bandwidth intense than for mobiles (mobile sites vs desktop sites for instance).
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I haven't used a 'mobile-optimised' site since I got my first smartphone in 2009.. they're horrible to use as soon as you have a touch screen and/or cursor (blackberry).
 
Geezo its the same arguments we had in the early days of BB. All they need to do is price the packages accordingly. I have no beef with someone using loads of data as long as my connection was uneffected. Anyway if Three are losing money that will change once your contracts run out. I get by on a measly 500Mb and yes its just enough. However I don`t stream music or video over mobile, thats what WiFi is for :D
 
[TW]Fox;27170885 said:
It's not hard to understand, but neither is it hard to understand that if everyone continually takes as much as they possibly can, then it won't last long.

Which it hasn't.

There is legally nothing to stop people being enormous leeches and taking literally as much as they could possibly consume. It was permissible and completely allowed. But it is what has resulted in the discontinuation of this service. You don't have to like that, but it's how it's happened.
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Indeed.


My original post wasn't directed at anyone on here but if you think you could get be using 150GB a month every month tethered or not for ever you're very naive.

Look at the state of EE's original pricing and data tariffs they were a joke (and still are). But this is the world we live in. 3 may or may not be able to handle every user on the network using 100GB+ a month who knows, but they're a business and when competitors are charging more and having less strain of their network why wouldn't you reassess your products. They may well decide to put out competitive sim only packages with nice big data allowances in the future but people really can't have a blinked view that users using 50, 60, 150GB a month and using them as landline replacements haven't contributed to this decision.
 
Mitzy said:
Wow there cowboy. Three used to advertise unlimited and provided an unlimited service. They no longer advertise unlimited tethering as they don't wish to provide that as part of their service. They haven't done anything wrong.
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I'm saying if a company can't provide the service it's selling it shouldn't sell it. Three still advertise unlimited data as far as I know.

It was in reference to Fox implying that people who use their unlimited service as it was advertised, they are some how "leeches" and it's wrong/unfair for them to use their service in that manner, and that companies are perfectly entitled to have an issue with it.
 
Azza said:
Indeed.


My original post wasn't directed at anyone on here but if you think you could get be using 150GB a month every month tethered or not for ever you're very naive.
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Naive to what exactly? Using as much data as you require on an unlimited service, tethered or not? How exactly would that be naivety?
 
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