To believe that this would last forever.
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To believe that this would last forever.
I don't think anyone's said that, so you're responding to something no one said.
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I bet most of the congestion comes from mobile users, not people tethering.
No Glaucus.
Anyone with any expertise providing/supporting any sort of ICT/data service will tell you there is absolutely no such thing as unlimited.
You clearly don't have this expertise because you believe the word unlimited literally means unlimited.
You need to realise that there are calculations a bandwidth provider does in order to be able to safely call it "unlimited". If they calculate wrong then they will cease services.
The fact is mobile bandwidth is a shared bandwidth service, the same as any other shared data/bandwidth provider, as opposed to a dedicated or leased bandwidth provider.
The fact that you assume "in no way is it abuse" simply proves you don't understand how shared services work. You simply don't comprehend the reality of how shared services are pooled. All you care about is the marketing term of "unlimited" and trying to understand it literally instead of realistically.
Bandwidth doesn't just grow on trees. Companies advertise "unlimited" based on calculated/forecast averages. Even truly dedicated services have a limit, and you seem to think a shared service advertising unlimited is literally unlimited, which is laughable.
It is absolutely NOT as simple as that.
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If you had said that before I had seen this thread I would agree but tbh some of these amounts are insane. I tend to watch a 1 hour video on 3g at lunchtime and a reasonbable amount of browsing etc on 3g at other times. Hook into wifi when I am home. I think max I do is 10gb a month - on my mobile device anything else is really going some. Tethering thats a whole different ball game - very easy to rack up massive values. If you are out of contract I totally get Threes position - the tip is if you are out of contract don't abuse it and hopefully you'll be fine.
I tether at home due to the shocking line speeds available to me. If you want to blame anyone, blame BT for monopolising the networks and refusing to upgrade rural networks.
Besides i probably tether between 5-10gb a month, which is nothing considering some people on here use more than that for mobile data alone. Also haven't received my text either, i'm just under halfway through a yearly contract, so it may be a case of finishing the contract first.
Besides i probably tether between 5-10gb a month, which is nothing considering some people on here use more than that for mobile data alone. Also haven't received my text either, i'm just under halfway through a yearly contract, so it may be a case of finishing the contract first.
Yes, I get a roll eyes in a reply and told to stop posting rubbish by someone who can't grasp why 3 have done what they have done, and who can't grasp why users who tether shouldn't have a need to rape the worlds media content when their plan already has unlimited data.
You'd be surprised. Pretty much every site is "optimised" for mobile devices natively (especially on Android and iOS devices, and those using chrome). In much the same way some dial up ISPs of the 90s' and early 00s' placed content and image compression on the line so that speeds were quicker and bandwidth was less.
People still seem to be missing the key difference between tethering and data. One device with unlimited data is not the same as that same device operating, technically, as a router for mass numbers of devices and users to all pull as they please across 3's network. 3 have realised this, and, not withstanding the contractual agreement between 3 and the user (not the tethered users), it has obviously had a massive impact on their ability to provide the service.
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Just seen this thread.... I'm on the one plan sim only which I signed up for a year around may I think it was, I do use quite a bit of data, but not a huge amount of tethering, having said that I got a new ipad today that was still on ios 7 and I don't get wifi where my desk is so sucked up 1.3gb using my mobile, will wait for the text or call to come 
I recall reading when I signed up that all you can eat data was limited to 1000gb per month
I recall reading when I signed up that all you can eat data was limited to 1000gb per month
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Again, why?
@Django x2 good point i hadn't thought of multiple users tethering off one phone.
I used to work for a mobile phone company, you wouldn't believe how much some people take the proverbial pee .... a few spoiled it for many. I wouldn't be surprised if all *unlimited* things are discontinued. You'd be surprised how many people use mobile phones as baby monitors and like.
There's no point in really replying to you anymore is there? You think it's possible (sensible, reasonable, rational) for someone to download or stream 1TB of data per month. Even MKV BD Rips of films swing in under 5GB these days, but you somehow think it's reasonable (or at least, not odd) for someone to execute 32Gb of data per day, or, to break it down, 12 hours of movies per day......
It's a ridiculous amount of data to be using.
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I use about 20gb a month on my 3 plan, no tethering aside from the odd bit when my internet connection dies but I only have a 4gb allowance, no issue yet.
Is there not a way around the tethering limit on a rooted device?
Is there not a way around the tethering limit on a rooted device?
There's no point in really replying to you anymore is there? You think it's possible (sensible, reasonable, rational) for someone to download or stream 1TB of data per month. Even MKV BD Rips of films swing in under 5GB these days, but you somehow think it's reasonable (or at least, not odd) for someone to execute 32Gb of data per day, or, to break it down, 12 hours of movies per day......
Then it shouldn't be called unlimited. There is nothing unreasonable about taking them at their literal word of unlimited.
Expertise is irrelevant. If there is a problem, they shouldn't say it's unlimited.
This is also irrelevant, they shouldn't call it unlimited if there is an issue in providing that.
This is also irrelevant. The problem lies in how companies name their services.
It's not an assumption, or a lack of understanding of how networking infrastructure works/
You don't need to know much to understand what unlimited means. As above, if it's not unlimited then they shouldn't call it unlimited. If there's a problem with the amount of data some people use, there is no justifiable reason to claim that the service is limited.
You are trying to make this significantly more complicated than it needs to be.
If the service wasn't advertised as unlimited, this discussion wouldn't be taking place. It is why Virgin Media had to stop claiming their service was unlimited whilst they throttled the connection speed when you went over a certain amount of data.
The technical workings don't matter, because you can get as technical as you want, but you'll never be able to argue that unlimited means anything but unlimited. Any issue with the amount used means it's not unlimited.
It really is, you're just trying to complicate it more than is necessary. This is one of those situations where keeping it simple leads to the correct conclusion, and that would be if they can't supply unlimited bandwidth, don't advertise it as such.
The same way a restaurant couldn't claim they had an all you can eat buffet if they limited you to 3 plates because their technical calculations show that the vast majority of people only had 2 plates.
Has anyone yet clarified whether those who are getting the texts are out of contract and also downloading large amounts.
If so what's the problem? Three have honoured the contract and are now saying we don't like the level you use of our plan so will need to control your use. Seems reasonable to me.
Unlimited plans are unlikely to last, I hope three Continue to be ok with those on unlimited who stay reasonable but if they don't it's just a case of reviewing the best plans out there.
If so what's the problem? Three have honoured the contract and are now saying we don't like the level you use of our plan so will need to control your use. Seems reasonable to me.
Unlimited plans are unlikely to last, I hope three Continue to be ok with those on unlimited who stay reasonable but if they don't it's just a case of reviewing the best plans out there.
Probably the most succinct précis of the situation I've seen..
My attitude is to make hay while the sun shines and never whine just because a business model becomes unsustainable when it inevitably gets abused!
All largely irrelevant. They've let you have your unlimited usage for the duration of your contract. After that, the product isn't available to buy anymore. What is so hard to grasp? If they don't do the package anymore - you can't have it. It isn't rocket science.
They obviously can supply the bandwidth and have been doing so, the fact is though - they no longer want to. Most people who aren't stamping their feet because they were using it as a landline replacement aren't really bothered.
Spoffle, do you believe you get something for nothing in this world?
Do you believe that when you see a BOGOFF deal, you are really, honestly, paying nothing for the 2nd item? No, I didn't think so.
Fortunately, most of us do live in the real world, and have, for a very long time known that when a service provided by telcos says Unlimited, their contract says different. They aren't in breach, or being "illegal" by offering an unlimited service, as they have correctly said in the T&Cs that unlimited means fair use.
Most telcos even advertise as Unlimited*. The asterix is normally the big give away.
If unlimited even meant 1TB a month, no one has still been able to justify how they could pull 1TB a month of data to a mobile device (or even a tethered device), yet those same people are getting funny about not havnig unlimited data.