Almost Titanic 2

Dunks · 18 Jan 2012 at 17:07

TaKeN said:
I guess the crane ship has some hellish propullsion to counteract the force of trying to right the ship. Either that or a big anchor

Take a look at the Sapiem 7000, absolute monster. Not that I can see them ever actually leasing it

chaparral · 18 Jan 2012 at 17:12

Dunks said:
Take a look at the Sapiem 7000, absolute monster. Not that I can see them ever actually leasing it

Saipem 7000

Formerly named the Micoperi 7000, this crane barge has two cranes at the bow each capable of lifting 7,000 tonnes, or 15,000 together.

Not much good when the Costa Concordia weights over 114,000 tons........

Damien. · 18 Jan 2012 at 17:31

chaparral said:
Not much good when the Costa Concordia weights over 114,000 tons........

You may be correct but that said, its not lifting the ship, just rolling it.

Maybe the boffs amongst us could work out the power required to roll such weight.

Wynthorpe · 18 Jan 2012 at 17:59

This has been one of the most amazing things ive watched unfolding, RIP to all the people who died.

Django x2 · 18 Jan 2012 at 18:03

The BBC image makes me lol. The 1st pic, the cables would just rip through the ship as tension increased unless the water was pumped out at the same time.

HEADRAT · 18 Jan 2012 at 18:20

I bet this never gets to trial, I think he'll "top" himself.

Craig1981 · 18 Jan 2012 at 18:23

HEADRAT said:
I bet this never gets to trial, I think he'll "top" himself.

Possible. Hes already demonstrated he has no problem taking the cowards way out.

MooMoo444 · 18 Jan 2012 at 18:31

Craig1981 said:
Possible. Hes already demonstrated he has no problem taking the cowards way out.

lold

Monkeymatt · 18 Jan 2012 at 20:13

It has probably been mentioned several times but..after looking again at the images I can't help but wonder, why is the hole on the side above the water? Surely that side should have been the side to sink as that was where all the water was going in... Unless there is an even bigger hole on the other side that they have yet to find..

PiKe · 18 Jan 2012 at 20:17

Monkeymatt said:
It has probably been mentioned several times but..after looking again at the images I can't help but wonder, why is the hole on the side above the water? Surely that side should have been the side to sink as that was where all the water was going in... Unless there is an even bigger hole on the other side that they have yet to find..

Because the water would pour in through the opening and pool on the other side.

Tobeornottobe · 18 Jan 2012 at 20:25

Monkeymatt said:
It has probably been mentioned several times but..after looking again at the images I can't help but wonder, why is the hole on the side above the water? Surely that side should have been the side to sink as that was where all the water was going in... Unless there is an even bigger hole on the other side that they have yet to find..

Free Surface effect. This destabilises vessel by reducing its inherent stability. The reason Herald of Free Enterprise rolled over with no hull damage, and a relatively small amount of water entering through the open bow doors. Also the reason that this cruise ship rolled over. It can be quite easily calculated.

This is the bible of ship stability.

http://books.google.com/books/about/Ship_stability_for_masters_and_mates.html?id=4E4FZ988AtYC

V F · 18 Jan 2012 at 21:35

MooMoo444 said:
Can't believe the Captain jumped ship. Fair enough, everyone would be scared in that situation but you need to have responsibility in such an important job..such a selfish coward.

When I saw that it made me think of this film with Harrison Ford starting from 8:24.

Meridian · 18 Jan 2012 at 21:39

Tobeornottobe said:
Free Surface effect. This destabilises vessel by reducing its inherent stability. The reason Herald of Free Enterprise rolled over with no hull damage, and a relatively small amount of water entering through the open bow doors. Also the reason that this cruise ship rolled over. It can be quite easily calculated.

Sort of - but mostly good old (cue the arguments and XKCD cartoon) centrifugal force, because the captain put the helm over to steer for shallow water and the turn was towards the from the hole so the ship heeled outwards, raising it. That side rose, but the hole stayed below water so the sinking continued.

M

Tobeornottobe · 18 Jan 2012 at 22:41

Actually if you look at the AIS plot that Lloyd's List published you will see that was not the case.

Cosimo · 19 Jan 2012 at 08:07

So you thought she was on the small side:

Cosimo · 19 Jan 2012 at 08:08

Let's go in a little bit:

[TW]Fox · 19 Jan 2012 at 08:10

simulatorman said:
So you thought she was on the small side:

I'm not sure anyone did, actually?

Cosimo · 19 Jan 2012 at 08:27

[TW]Fox;21067774 said:
I'm not sure anyone did, actually?

Maybe one or two.

It's called Sun journalism.

MoNkeE · 19 Jan 2012 at 09:14

Hey look, I can see the Captain's boat just off to the right

Jay794 · 19 Jan 2012 at 09:16

I get that the guy shouldn't have abandoned his post, but in a life or death situation (not that it was that) how many of us can see we wouldn't have attempted to save our own lives over everyone elses