Poll: am I mental?

[Jono]

I voted that it's a retarded decision. But you should still do it.

 

[ubersonic]

Yes even a deity like me can be made to feel like a mere mortal in these beasties

I have to ask, how the hell did you spin while going in a straight line on the motorway? the has to be more to the story than this surely, pouring rain? ditch finders fitted? geometry problem? skidded on the bits you get crossing the road when you go over flyovers? or was the car running high power? :S

 

[Six6siX]

Do it. You won't regret it! If its a car you really want, everything and anything else you get instead will always feel inferior!

I find myself looking at Supra's every so often and thinking very seriously about getting another one...there's some sort of unexplainable attraction

Finding an good, unmolested UKTT6 is going to be very difficult or very expensive (£12k++). Even BPU(+) ones can be >£10-12k - especially if they are well cared for and modified well.

If you go for an Autobox of fail then they tend to be a good 3-4k less.

When I had mine I was insured with Adrian Flux all mods declared on a BPU+ UKTT6 for just over £800 at 22/23.

*With one caveat. The Supra Twin Turbo is a VERY lairy car. Even the best of drivers can get into a lot of trouble very quickly with one. Even Will Gill on these very forums - ISTR he span his, in a straight line, on the Motorway and sold it the next day. They demand serious respect and very challenging to drive. Ask yourself if thats really something you feel you want and can handle

Its a stupidly lairy back end - not quite as bad as say, a 200SX imo but getting there - it won't be helped if the car is running BPU either - a bit of damp or something and a second turbo coming online could easily be a spin out.

A point to note is that the stock TC is very primitive in the way it attempts to regain traction when it detects slip (compared to the way DSC and the like behave) and as such I agree with the following:

infact I gave the RLTC advice to someone else here, he didn't listen and binned it,

RLTC, RLTC, RLTC

That'd be me

I did listen...though! I was literally a week away from getting hold of one - I wholeheartedly approve the RLTC advice.

OP - As I'm sure you know there's a lot more to the UK Specs, but if you want to know anything in particular about them or running costs/maintenance etc, feel free to ask

 

[Will Gill]

I have to ask, how the hell did you spin while going in a straight line on the motorway? the has to be more to the story than this surely, pouring rain? ditch finders fitted? geometry problem? skidded on the bits you get crossing the road when you go over flyovers? or was the car running high power? :S

Just massive arse out at 90mph as the single turbo came on (converted) and I was overly confident I knew how to use/play with the power. scared the living poo poo out of me how I didn't hit armco or ditch I'll never know, because if I'd told you I was going to complete a 1260 on purpose I would probably have got mad props

 

[The-Plethora]

I have had mine about 3 years, replacing bits starts to become an issue but I love the looks, power and how few you see around these days and I can't see myself selling up anytime soon.

If you are keeping it totally standard I can see the point of getting a UK car but if you are planning on modifying it at all then I would just get a cheaper import one. Check the suspension, coil packs and most importantly do the tippex test on the crank pulley.

In my personal opinion I think the front bumper on a stock car looks very dated and those '*****' healight sprayers have got to go

 

[Gaijin]

I can't approve purely based on the ridiculous scene tax that they command now.

Admittedly it's a fine package, but being someone who can't get on with the looks - I couldn't justify it.

 

[NathWraith]

OP - As I'm sure you know there's a lot more to the UK Specs, but if you want to know anything in particular about them or running costs/maintenance etc, feel free to ask

Cheers

Running my N/A for around 6 months returned around 16MPG overall, how does the Uk spec fair?

Regarding the UK spec brakes how much more are they to buy? As my import cost £160 for discs all round then + pads on top, so for pagid OEMs you were looking around £250 all in which isn't too bad.

I really like the Supra AUTO I see the Supra as more of a cruiser than a B road attacker.

I'd plan to keep the car as standard/OEM as possible. So for more UK spec makes more sense.

 

[pcoltrane]

I voted to keep the Ibiza.

A supra is going to cost a whole heap of cash more to run ... yet will it really make you that much happier than you are now once you're over the new purchase high?

My question is - are there other things you could spend that money on that would make you even happier? For example a season racing with club100, a kart or trackday car or similar? It may also save your license (and possibly a few old ladies fences

 

[The-Plethora]

Mine is an auto and I was a bit worried having only driven manual cars before that I wouldn't like it. It's really nice and responsive. Getting 16mpg isn't so great on an NA, almost certainly your sensors need replacing with new ones, I believe you should be seeing 22-25mpg on that.

My TT Jspec Auto BPU gets anywhere from 17 - 23 depending on how it's used. UK brakes will set you back around £450 I think, second hand ones come up but usually not much cheaper than new, I still run Jspec brakes and even at over 400bhp I find them fine. There is another car (LS200 maybe?) that uses the same discs and are about 60 quid cheaper which let you avoid the 'supra tax'.

A UK car is a little more desireable due to insurance purposes, bigger brakes and slightly stronger steel turbos which can take up to 1.4 bar if pushed but spool slightly slower than the jspec ones.

Such a great car, it can be anything you want, a nice comfortable 220bhp cruiser or a 1500bhp monster...wallet permitting of course.

 

[ubersonic]

I really like the Supra AUTO I see the Supra as more of a cruiser than a B road attacker.

Something ill point out in case nobody else tells you you before it happens, with cruise control on if you start to go uphill the car will drop a gear, which on the motorway or duel carriageway will generate enough boost to create a leaving stomach behind moment, which in the rain can be slightly unnerving the first time

 

[hurfdurf]

Seat Ibiza, not genuinely sporty, its a compromise car.

Twin Turbo Supra, genuinely sporty also hella fun, would probably be an event and pleasure to drive daily.

 

[Six6siX]

Running my N/A for around 6 months returned around 16MPG overall, how does the Uk spec fair?

I remember commenting on your mpg figures in another thread - thats very poor! From memory and bearing in mind the larger fuel tank capacity, I used to get 300-320ish miles on average (slightly more on a run obviously) to a tank. Worked out to around 20-22mpg with the odd blast, 26-28 on a run if you were reasonably light footed.

Regarding the UK spec brakes how much more are they to buy? As my import cost £160 for discs all round then + pads on top, so for pagid OEMs you were looking around £250 all in which isn't too bad.

As a guide (again from memory), a full set of UK Spec OEM pads for front and rear is about ~£120. OEM disks are £170-200 a pair (fronts more expensive obviously). So overall, a bit more expensive than the NA, but then, they are substantially bigger brakes!

My brake setup was only stock on the calipers (4+2 pot). I had DBA slotted/grooved disks and Endless SS Pads on mine so prices would be different - I can't remember off hand but can try and dig out receipts if you like for a comparison on aftermarket stuff

I really like the Supra AUTO I see the Supra as more of a cruiser than a B road attacker.

I'd plan to keep the car as standard/OEM as possible. So for more UK spec makes more sense.

Its definitely a cruiser of sorts in standard form - its a heavy car! If you get the chance to drive both a stock TT and well done BPU car though, the difference is very pronounced.

To your benefit, you may find it easier to get hold of a relatively stock Auto as they tend to be slightly less sought after and hence less likely to be modified

 

[Blackhawk47]

This will be Nath when he gets his Supra.

 

[Vince]

Apart from my little run around I always tend to buy silly cars without thinking too much about it so its hardly surprising that I voted to do it. The cupra is a fine car but I can understand why it doesn't really hit the spot, the supra is imo just more special, 17 years old or not.

I know the situation all to well your head is telling you to be sensible but your heart is trying to make you do ridiculous things, even so I go with the heart every time. Mind you I am not sure how keen I would be running a supra if it was my daily but at the end of the day it's your cash, your life and if a supra makes you happy then that's what it has to be!

 

[Muffin`]

Silly post, which I regret:
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Going out of your way to create fake twitter account, hunting my profile down, and taking the time to create group on twitter to add me to:

Sorry to go OT Nathan, I just wanted to answer Rob's question. I will leave it there...

To defend myself... that wasn't me, I'd have more style.

This will be Nath when he gets his Supra.

 

[Joshy]

How long ago did you get rid of the supra (Obviously I haven't been around )?

I had a feeling that you wouldn't keep it for very long to be honest. A NA/Auto is never going to hold the attention of a true enthusiast.

The heart has got to win over the head every single time. I was earning 5 quid an hour when I bought my Soarer. So 10MPG, a £2,500 insurance bill and maintenance costs on top. Everybody I spoke to (even hardcore car enthusiasts) thought I was mental but at the end of the day if it means having something that you are going to love and cherish whatever sacrifices you have got to put up with in order to live with it are worth it, especially when you are still young.

The important thing is not to let it impede on proper, 100% real life commitments. I could sacrifice things like not going out every weekend in order to run it, but towards the end it was a matter of choosing paying the rent or keeping the car so it had to go. Then annoyingly real life commitments popped up again when I got the V8 one, so I had to sell that one and all! .

I think in just over a year I had it I sunk 5 grand into that car (mostly insurance) and got back £1200. A stomach churning amount considering I earned 10k, but hey, I'd do it again in a heartbeat. You can't put a price on memories and I had many good ones in that car because I loved it and I was passionate about it.

As I am sure you know, you will not lose money on a good UK Spec car, infact in fact you're properly going to make money on one if you keep it for a few years. Prices are only going one way on Supras, UK Spec cars in particular. If they weren't quite so ugly I might have considered one myself .

If it is purely disposable income it'll affect then do it. Seriously.

 

[Muffin`]

oh ****, Joshy's back! Hide the sub 300bhp cars!

 

[Muffin`]

How long ago did you get rid of the supra (Obviously I haven't been around )?

I had a feeling that you wouldn't keep it for very long to be honest. A NA/Auto is never going to hold the attention of a true enthusiast.

The heart has got to win over the head every single time. I was earning 5 quid an hour when I bought my Soarer. So 10MPG, a £2,500 insurance bill and maintenance costs on top. Everybody I spoke to (even hardcore car enthusiasts) thought I was mental but at the end of the day if it means having something that you are going to love and cherish whatever sacrifices you have got to put up with in order to live with it are worth it, especially when you are still young.

The important thing is not to let it impede on proper, 100% real life commitments. I could sacrifice things like not going out every weekend in order to run it, but towards the end it was a matter of choosing paying the rent or keeping the car so it had to go. Then annoyingly real life commitments popped up again when I got the V8 one, so I had to sell that one and all! .

I think in just over a year I had it I sunk 5 grand into that car (mostly insurance) and got back £1200. A stomach churning amount considering I earned 10k, but hey, I'd do it again in a heartbeat. You can't put a price on memories and I had many good ones in that car because I loved it and I was passionate about it.

As I am sure you know, you will not lose money on a good UK Spec car, infact in fact you're properly going to make money on one if you keep it for a few years. Prices are only going one way on Supras, UK Spec cars in particular. If they weren't quite so ugly I might have considered one myself .

If it is purely disposable income it'll affect then do it. Seriously.

Good post, in essence = go for it

 

[Blackhawk47]

oh ****, Joshy's back! Hide the sub 300bhp cars!

This is good news!

 

[Skillmister]

Wow. Was just on the way back from asda and saw a supra with the full F&F look going on. Silver with blue vinyls down the side, huge spoiler and blue neon lights underneath and around the exhaust Sounded insane but definitely looked out of place through the centre of stafford