Am I the only one who thinks Star Wars suck?

I like the originals ,the new ones are absolutely garbage PC agenda pushing crap.

Prequels ...love/hate them,romance crap ruined it but the background etc pulled it back.
Also Obi wan v anakin is great in the last one.

Getting star wars fatigue though , required greater gaps between releases and more thought and continuity ...hey ho
 
I’m almost finished working my way through The Clone Wars cartoon series which I’ve been finding pretty good especially seasons 4 and 5. They add a lot more depth to films 1 to 3 which I never took to at all. The first series or two are aimed at children but this principle slips a wee bit as we go on with beheadings, stabbings and general murder as we go on!

As always, I digress. Star Wars has always been aimed at children. They appealed to the general public as they were so different for the time with excellent special effects. A majority of fans were children when they first saw the films (I was anyway) and were suitably wowed. The issue with films 1 - 3 (and to a lesser extent 7 - 9) is that they were also aimed at children whereas the fan base had grown considerably older and expected more adult films as suited their age. Hence the backlash against Jar Jar Binks... And why Rogue One rates well with its more mature storyline.
 
There are parts of ESB & ROTJ I can rewatch endlessly but not the rest. I was really excited for the TFA and the trailers leading up to it gave me chills but when I saw it the magic was all gone, especially once the Millenium Falcon was being thrown around like a fighter craft!
 
My friend is one of the "few" who has only seen 1 film (Ep4) as an adult, didn't like it and never watched any others. He is however not a "film" person anyway unless it's a Mafia film so he doesn't like Sci-Fi at the best of times.

I'm still a huge OT fan in my mid 40's alongside my mid 60's dad who is still one too and both of us will watch one of the OT films at least once a year.
 
I don't think it 'sucks' but I don't understand the cult following it has and people take criticism of the films real personally.

Rogue One was a fantastic film though. Well above the others.
 
I think the Star Wars universe is brilliant, but they never really created a good story in them except in the first trilogy and Rogue One. And of course the Mandalorian TV show.

I think there's great potential there for a new storyline (whether centuries before or after the Skywalker storyline) if it's done right.
 
The original trilogy (apart from the ewok bits in ROTJ) were fantastic escapism and are pretty timeless and can be watched by anyone in my opinion. Rogue One is the only decent Disney one. The rest are utter dumpster fires and aimed at 5 year olds.
 
I’ve watched episodes 1-5 recently, just need to polish them off.

I’ve actually enjoyed all of them. The first one has its flaws but is childish fun, the second is undoubtedly the worst but perhaps has the darkest moment, the third feels really tragic. But they are what they are and I kind of like them. It’s actually amazing rewatching A New Hope and hearing them talk of the senate, the clone wars etc... really quite clever.

A New Hope is much better than I remembered and the sets in Empire Strikes Back are absolutely insane. The base on Hoth looks.... like a base on Hoth?! Really very well crafted / amazing. It’s fun seeing them in HD as you spot little things in the background. That silly looking spider droid that is in the line up to get flogged to Skywalker on Tattooine in A New Hope makes a cameo in Hoth :D

I’m not a fan boi of the series but they are all quite enjoyable films.

It’s sort of hilarious seeing the overzealous criticisms of the new films and recognising the same issues in the old films. They talk about refuelling craft in the original trilogy and are clearly seen doing so. Also, they bomb the asteroids in ESB and they also just walk out into space from the Millennium Falcon with absolutely no airlock in the worms belly. Hurrrr worst films ever hurrrr!!!! :D

One legitimate criticism, and I say this being really rather bored of the social justice movements, is just how racist the Phantom Menace is.... it’s almost laugh of loud in how blatant the racial stereotypes are :o

Return of the Jedi next, might be a combo breaker as I recall it being really quite boring, but we’ll see.
 
So just finished ROTJ.

It’s alright. A ‘good romp’. One of the most striking thing is just how odd some of the character designs are - the pig guards do not feel ‘Star Wars’ at all... more fantasy... like Willow, or something. Similar with the Ewoks.

The enhanced special effects are awful in this one, notably that miserable dancing scene with the Men in Black aliens... really poor. I also found it weird that unlike the other two, there were obvious ‘green shapes’ (mostly hexagons) around the spaceships, particularly the Death Star... pretty sure it wasn’t my TV!

Also, the opening sequence of this one makes the least sense of everything in the whole series. The droids say that they don’t know where Lando and Chewie are... yet Luke acknowledges Lando when he arrives... and how did the droids get there first... and why did Princess go in with Chewie?! Didn’t Chewie go there with Lando (and nobody knew what happened to Chewie in Lando as per C3PO’s comments to R2).... Wtf is all of that about?!? Makes no sense whatsoever :p
 
Nitefly said:
It’s sort of hilarious seeing the overzealous criticisms of the new films and recognising the same issues in the old films. They talk about refuelling craft in the original trilogy and are clearly seen doing so. Also, they bomb the asteroids in ESB and they also just walk out into space from the Millennium Falcon with absolutely no airlock in the worms belly. Hurrrr worst films ever hurrrr!!!! :D
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Maybe I'm wrong but I saw those aspects in the older movies as mostly oversights and relatively isolated - whereas the newer ones I find they infect [it feels like] every scene seemingly without a care with the feel that they just assumed the audience would be too stupid to notice/care.
 
Rroff said:
Maybe I'm wrong but I saw those aspects in the older movies as mostly oversights and relatively isolated - whereas the newer ones I find they infect [it feels like] every scene seemingly without a care with the feel that they just assumed the audience would be too stupid to notice/care.
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I think that’s largely down to how you approached the film. With Princess floating off into space, there is clearly and very visibly an airlock when she re-enters the ship. Yet everyone was up in arms that she would have decompressed the ship. It’s like ffff did you even watch the film. As for whether it’s appropriate for Princess to survive the vacuum of spaced and why they didn’t just use light speed to get ahead of the rebels and crush them... well yes that’s a very different question :)

Plenty of silly moments in the original trilogy.... like when they fly into the death star at super duper speed. What kind of ultra mega reflexes does that require. Oh yeah, great blockade around Hoth - they all just fly off no biggy. Not to mention the zillion opportunities that have to kill Luke and the team if they really wanted to and the suicide opening of the milleium falcon hatch on the asteroid.

The real solution is just to calm the **** down, stop being such a bore and enjoy it for the entertainment it’s supposed to be. I say that not aimed at anyone and not to be rude, just in light of people spoiling things for themselves when there is a LOT to enjoy. You don’t need everything explaining to you on screen to enjoy the film. Just accept that there are reasons and move on.

Before they got out of the millenium falcon on the asteroid.... they checked the pressure and saw it was fine.... there, solved :)
 
Nitefly said:
The real solution is just to calm the **** down, stop being such a bore and enjoy it for the entertainment it’s supposed to be. I say that not aimed at anyone and not to be rude, just in light of people spoiling things for themselves when there is a LOT to enjoy
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Problem with that is, and it is going to be somewhat subjective, there are levels where you can suspend your disbelief and levels that you absolutely can't. And there is going to be a point where the bulk of the population drop off as subjective as it might be.
 
Rroff said:
Problem with that is, and it is going to be somewhat subjective, there are levels where you can suspend your disbelief and levels that you absolutely can't. And there is going to be a point where the bulk of the population drop off as subjective as it might be.
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Yeah, I agree. Princess in space had people laughing in disbelief in the cinema. It’s not materially relevant to the plot so I can’t sort of just get over it... but it is pretty silly.
 
MookJong said:
There are only 3 Star Wars films, they were released between 1977 and 1983.

One is excellent, one is good and one has a decent space battle but teddies.

The world created in the OT is what holds my interest more than the actual films and their flaws. It's the lived in look of the costumes and sets, the places it sends your own imagination. The bounty hunters for example in ESB, we never get their back story but you invent your own ideas about who they are and how they operate.

Once the universe was fleshed out it lost it's charm.

Harmey's despecialized edition forever!!!

https://originaltrilogy.com/
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you aint wrong, but look out for 4k77 and 4k83 (4k80 isn't out yet) - they look great
 
Original trilogy as it was in the 80's is excellent
Prequel trilogy not very good but at least they add some world building and lore
Recent trilogy is dog turd
Rogue One is decent
Solo is dog turd
Mandalorian is excellent
 
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