Am I wrong to want an Impreza?

ScoobyDoo69 said:
How could you possibly think 550miles to a tank is bad?

WRX's are not that slow though btw MrLOL. I took mine down the strip with only exhaust mods, in a 13.2 @ 102.
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i had a little "play" from about 40 mph on the dual carriageway last week with one.

mullered him in that straight away i was pulling away from him and was a car length or so in front within a few seconds.

The 1/4 mile and 0-60 times look better than you would expect due to the 4x4.

Once rolling though, they're not all that.
 
Yeah but you just said 0-100 is what shows a fast car is.. so was just going by what you said. I don't doubt that once moving you could be quite fast, however, I'm just trying to say that a mildly tuned WRX.. possibly even PPP really isn't as slow as you suggest. But lets not forget, you're comparing a 215bhp 2.0 Turbo, to your 2.8 V6 280? bhp car. You're obviously going to be faster.
 
Yeah no doubt. Subaru really need to up the WRX's power output like they have done in the USA. Their 09 WRXs come with 260odd bhp as standard! I'd love to see Subaru start doing that over here. And only release the STi with PPP power.. at least! Unfortunately the competition keeps coming back with more power.. and the Subaru just comes back uglier lol.

On topic though, nothing wrong with a WRX although as standard they are so heavily restricted I can only really recommend the PPP'd version. Just wakes the car up a little bit, and of course delivers the lushious burble :D My old WRX would see around 240-300miles to a tank around town, start stop, thrashings etc. I had a lot of fun with that car, the fear of snapping the gearbox from some of my launches and such made me move to the STi though. Now I just get annoyed at the huge ratio jump from 4th-5th :(
 
DrDee said:
Do UK scoobys want the premium unleaded?
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You CAN use it. However, even Prodrive after their prodrive pack has been put on, say that power is quite reduced on 95. I ran 95 once in my WRX... never never again. Felt lumpy, boost response was off on part throttle. WOT yielded not much difference, but the car just didn't feel as smooth overall.
 
I'm impreza shopping at the moment too, it feels like a really stupid thing to be doing, but I really really want one. My understanding is that (in terms of classic uk 2000) turbo upgrade/intake/decat down pipe and centre section/rear silencer and remap are good for circa 300bhp? (before worrying about injectors/fuel pump and so on). That's a lot of performance for the money, imo, considering the fact that a lot of uk 2000's/wrx's have had basic mods like turbo upgrades already, loads of rebuilt classics too. I drove a friend of my dads classic wrx a few days ago, circa 330bhp, some sort of api concoction, ohlins coilover something or other, anyway, major major fun, even at such a relatively low state of tune. I think he was trying to put me off, alas it had the opposite effect :D.
 
So for the record are you using yours day to day again now Ant? Not getting rid of it anymore.
 
benneh said:
I'm impreza shopping at the moment too, it feels like a really stupid thing to be doing, but I really really want one. My understanding is that (in terms of classic uk 2000) turbo upgrade/intake/decat down pipe and centre section/rear silencer and remap are good for circa 300bhp? (before worrying about injectors/fuel pump and so on). That's a lot of performance for the money, imo, considering the fact that a lot of uk 2000's/wrx's have had basic mods like turbo upgrades already, loads of rebuilt classics too. I drove a friend of my dads classic wrx a few days ago, circa 330bhp, some sort of api concoction, ohlins coilover something or other, anyway, major major fun, even at such a relatively low state of tune. I think he was trying to put me off, alas it had the opposite effect :D.
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I'm not an expert on classics, but my understanding is that the original injectors are a bit underwhelming, so they would need replacing as well - but I may be wrong. And long before you play with th eengine you need to sort the suspension out: fit a bump-steer mod and anti-lift kit. On a really old classic you'd need to put proper brakes on as well. Also they don't get remapped as such: they have a third party boost controller fitted which takes over many of the ECU functions AFAIK.


As for the OP, I find that a full (60 litre) tank does me about 220 miles in the STI, and it was about the same in the WRX. But if you do steady motorway miles only that goes up to about 320 miles. Bear in mind that (as always) it's your right foot that makes the difference: lots of boost, and often, kills the performance. But if you buy a WRX I give you six months max, before you really regret not getting the STI.


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Anyone considering an Impreza should look at an Octavia vRS before buying if you ask me. Much nicer car, granted they're FWD but give it some extra air and a remap, you'll have loads more torque and a much more pleasureable driving experience
 
I've had a WRX and an STi and to compare them on speed alone is missing the point. The Sti is much more of a 'focussed' drivers car, the WRX more of a fast saloon.

Unless you are *absolutely* sure that you want a WRX because of the type of driving you do/enjoy then fine, even then really worth getting one with PPP as it makes it into the car it should be out of the factory. Otherwise spend a bit more and get an Sti otherwise you'll end up getting Sti envy and regretting it or spend a shed load of money trying to turn it into one. Been there, got the T-shirt.

Again, as above MPG will depend entirely on useage and driving style. I used to get low 20's on all my Scoobs.

Apart from that if you can afford the Road Tax and Insurance then go for it, if you're not already registered get yourself over to Scoobynet, loads of good info and if you're in the market for a nice Scoob in the South I can recommend RRH auto's, top bloke and has a good selection of motors..
 
must admit I have a yearning for a Turbo 2000, as they can be had for about 3-4k now and look less "chavvy" than most. Can get 300bhp without too much effort but thats about the limit for that engine. If you want 350+ it will need to be a STI
 
I used to be able to get over 300 miles on my UK turbo. My RA I can get 250 but not much more.

If your talking classics then the WRX RA is a bit of a revelation. Depending on version it will have the same turbo as its STI cousin. Once mapped it will put it out the same if not just as much as a mapped STI - plus have a lower ratio 'box.

Mines between 300-320 (real world not pub figures) and has the lowest ratio 'box you can get on a classic. It makes my mapped UK turbo look slow in comparison.

Mines also a limited edtion WRC 380/1000 which gets blue alcantara seats, sonic blue paintwork.

Oh - and its for sale at a rather keen price ;) ;)
 
Well i just got 300 miles out of my tank in my scoob so thats about 30mpg and im running at 270bhp and my afr is way to high and thats mixed driving speeds ;)

Get an impreza :D

Around 4.8 secs 0-60 with ppp pack on WRX
 
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If you're going to get a WRX try to get one with the PPP fitted, it makes a big difference to the performance. Oh and the noise from the PPP exhaust is just perfect IMHO, not too loud, but just enhances the burble nicely.

http://www.prodrive.com/products_level2.html?id=109&p=12

And this is the performance sheet for the 03 models...

http://www.prodrive.com/up/03MY WRX PPP.pdf

Only thing is it is pretty hard on fuel as has been said (although the PPP is supposed to improve mpg, but in reality it doesn't as you boot it all the more :p). Expect between 17-25mpg depending on how long your journeys are and how hard you drive it. But let's face it, if you're even considering a Scooby, then you're gonna drive it hard ;)
 
18mpg sounds like rubbish to me.
I used to have a Legacy B4 which has the same engine as the STI only in twin-turbo form, on a heavier car and with a 4 speed automatic gearbox. Work were paying for the petrol so I didn't really give a stuff about fuel economy.

The best I ever had out of it was 30.021mpg which was achieved doing a constant 80 from Glasgow to Birmingham, only ever did that once because the requirement from work was that I buy a car capable of doing over 30mpg and those two petrol receipts proved that.

Typically I got 22-25mpg on a mixture of motorway driving and twisty single carriageways.

Somehow I doubt that the lighter and less powerful Impreza WRX would get worse MPG figures than my old Legacy unless you don't know how to drive.
 
Another point to make on choosing a classic. If you do go import insurance will be quite high for an STI. If, like me, you go for an RA its insured as a WRX. AFAIK insurers don't divide Imprezas - WRX/RA/STI.

For an STI RA my best quote was £650. For my RA its £400.

My RA has ABS too which STI RA don't have but I don't have DCCD
 
Lum said:
18mpg sounds like rubbish to me.
I used to have a Legacy B4 which has the same engine as the STI only in twin-turbo form, on a heavier car and with a 4 speed automatic gearbox. Work were paying for the petrol so I didn't really give a stuff about fuel economy.

The best I ever had out of it was 30.021mpg which was achieved doing a constant 80 from Glasgow to Birmingham, only ever did that once because the requirement from work was that I buy a car capable of doing over 30mpg and those two petrol receipts proved that.

Typically I got 22-25mpg on a mixture of motorway driving and twisty single carriageways.

Somehow I doubt that the lighter and less powerful Impreza WRX would get worse MPG figures than my old Legacy unless you don't know how to drive.
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Slightly OT, but the guy who bought my Elise off me a couple of years back had a Lichfield Legacy and oh my sweet jesus, that thing was incredible. Twin scroll turbo was immense!
 
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