Amanda Knoxx retrial

Castiel said:
They also quite clearly said Amanda Knox did it...
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No, in a multi-layer judicial system they found her guilty in part and also later not guilty.

There is a difference between actions that can only be performed by 2 people and the probability that a specific person committed an act.

If one find someone guilty of shooting someone then that is based upon a presentation of evidence the fact a bullet went into someone's brain and killed them stone cold dead is not so disputable.
 
Xordium said:
No, in a multi-layer judicial system they found her guilty in part and also later not guilty.

There is a difference between actions that can only be performed by 2 people and the probability that a specific person committed an act.

If one find someone guilty of shooting someone then that is based upon a presentation of evidence the fact a bullet went into someone's brain and killed them stone cold dead is not so disputable.
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So they didn't say she did it?
 
Castiel said:
So they didn't say she did it?
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They both said and didn't say she did because they were making a qualitative assessment. Actions that can only be performed by 2 people though are quantitative assessments and therefore far more measurable.

Completely different weights of evidence to both as you well know but you're in a mood today of at least a pedantic fashion so I'll leave you to it to spare a wall of text. You just want an argument today hence the "hot" comment. The trouble is you've made it too obvious for anyone you would actually enjoy debating it with.
 
the point is though, that they were wrong about so much and fabricated so much that we cannot be sure how many people were involved. Essentially they have someone in custody and that is pretty much going to have to do as far as closure for the forgotten Kercher family.

Unless something else shows up.
 
aardvark said:
i don't like her - she does seem fake - but i don't think she is guilty, the evidence was nonsense.
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I agree. She has such a pretentious, false and fake personality, that it would make most people suspicious.

I don't think she is guilty though given the evidence, which is inconclusive at best.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
There's something cold about Ms Knox that I don't like.
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This has always been the problem. The public have an idea, mostly gained from films, of how a person behaves after traumatic events. If a real person doesn't follow the script, then the public tend to assume that they are lying. Knox didn't follow the script. That's the sum total of evidence against her, bar a false accusation made against another man following hours in police questioning without a lawyer or Consular support.

But it's enough for the lynch mob, who simply don't understand that people who are innocent can do weird things. And the press will then report those things and make them sound weirder. There's never been any real evidence against Knox - most of the stuff reported in the papers was wrong, a bad misunderstanding of forensic evidence (some people seemed to think that finding Knox's DNA in a house she shared was meaningful, for example) or just made up.

To the best of my knowledge, there's no evidence that more than one person committed the crime - just a general suspicion, mostly from the police officer who made up much of the story.
 
I've been baffled by this case since day one. Very early on, it became clear that none of the evidence being presented against Knox and Sollecito was anywhere near even suggesting their involvement without some fanciful interpretation.

The case against Guede is as rock solid a murder case as you'll see.

Evidence for an accomplice is also very sketchy. It's a real shame the prosecution were looking to blame Knox and Sollecito or this would have been justice done years ago.

I feel very sorry for the Kercher family that such incompetent investigators handled their daughter's murder investigation.
 
European judges will on Thursday decide whether Amanda Knox’s last remaining conviction over the 2007 death of her British flatmate Meredith Kercher in the Italian city of Perugia should be overturned.
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Knox, also a language student, and her Italian former boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, were initially charged with sexually assaulting and killing her flatmate.
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In 2009, Knox was convicted in an Italian court of falsifying a break-in at their Perugia flat, sexual assault, murder and defamation. She was sentenced to 26 years in prison. Sollecito was also found guilty of the attack and sentenced to 25 years. Both appealed. In 2011, the Perugia court of appeal acquitted the pair of the more serious charges, but upheld Knox’s conviction for malicious accusation. After three years in custody, Knox was released and returned to the US.
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One man, Ivory Coast-born Rudy Guede, is serving a 16-year sentence for his role in the killing. (LINK)
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No way a fragrant young American and her quite delightful Italian boyfriend could be responsible for murder.

Now a guy from the Ivory Coast, that's completely different.
 
stockhausen said:
No way a fragrant young American and her quite delightful Italian boyfriend could be responsible for murder.

Now a guy from the Ivory Coast, that's completely different.
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LOL! Reminds me of the polar opposite of this example of left wing political correctness gone mad... Take a white well educated teenager seemingly from an affluent background. Put him face to face with a native america. Have the white kid do nothing other than dare to stand his ground and smile and grin almost nervously as a native american beats a drum in his face.

And the logical conclusion? The white kid(s) needs to be hunted down and basically strung up for "grievous bodily smiling"... The headmaster should be sacked and there needs to be a shooting at that school! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6_6jpLyjjI [Note: Some strong language and opinions in video]
 
NeilFawcett said:
LOL! Reminds me of the polar opposite of this example of left wing political correctness gone mad... Take a white well educated teenager seemingly from an affluent background. Put him face to face with a native america. Have the white kid do nothing other than dare to stand his ground and smile and grin almost nervously as a native american beats a drum in his face.

And the logical conclusion? The white kid(s) needs to be hunted down and basically strung up for "grievous bodily smiling"... The headmaster should be sacked and there needs to be a shooting at that school! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6_6jpLyjjI [Note: Some strong language and opinions in video]
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I think you misunderstood.

The white kid committed a crime under the Orwell Act 1984 - A person is guilty of thoughtcrime based on their facial expression...
 
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