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[danlightbulb]

i also work in shipping and china is currently causing me sleepless nights. We are owned by a haulage company who are clueless as to why my rates have currently gone from $2500 to $6500 per container, trying to explain it to them is like trying to understand mandarin.

How many units of an item (or how many kg), do you ship in each container?

 

[Chrisc]

How many units of an item (or how many kg), do you ship in each container?

Depends on the product, one i have on my desk right now is wooden flooring and thats sat in a 40' container which has 14 pallets weighing 14500kg 22.28cbm, the documentation is showing 1300m2

 

[danlightbulb]

Depends on the product, one i have on my desk right now is wooden flooring and thats sat in a 40' which is 14 pallets weighing 14500kg 22.28cbm, the documentation is showing 1300m2

Ok so assuming you have that container all to yourself, its an increase of $4000 per container for 1300m2 of flooring so an increase of just $3 per m2. A 'pack' of flooring typically contains around 1.3m2 so its only a $4 per pack increase at retail outlet.

Tech products could easily ship more units per container (if they existed) but they could share containers to be efficient. This shouldn't be affecting things if you think logically, its a marginal price increase per unit.

 

[Tinek]

Well without being in the business obviously im speculating here, but if they won't ship for £5000, maybe they'll ship for £10,000, or £15,000? On a 10,000 piece shipment, that still is only an extra couple of quid per unit.

I am sure there's a price that could fix it but eventually we will all have to pay that price. But imagine this - Brexit UK, isolated island. Relatively small market. A ship takes 2-3 weeks each way to arrive from China. 6+ weeks of containers being locked. Meanwhile they could do a few trips (for not much less I reckon) to closer countries or ones that order much bigger stock. Like EU in general (because of the size). Politics aside, the reality is this is to be expected, even outside pandemic. Of course UK could import things from EU, but that adds middlemen and price (and time) grows even higher. Nothing of this should come as surprise in the end, it's been predicted to happen years ago. Pandemic just made it come faster.

 

[GhostDog1981]

I am sure there's a price that could fix it but eventually we will all have to pay that price. But imagine this - Brexit UK, isolated island. Relatively small market. A ship takes 2-3 weeks each way to arrive from China. 6+ weeks of containers being locked. Meanwhile they could do a few trips (for not much less I reckon) to closer countries or ones that order much bigger stock. Like EU in general (because of the size). Politics aside, the reality is this is to be expected, even outside pandemic. Of course UK could import things from EU, but that adds middlemen and price (and time) grows even higher. Nothing of this should come as surprise in the end, it's been predicted to happen years ago. Pandemic just made it come faster.

I think I draw the line at £800, anything more is blatant scalping by legit companies and scalpers, speaking to the missus about the 6900XT and prices she did say not to pay £1000 on a graphics card that likely will have a 5 year tops life span.

 

[Tinek]

I think I draw the line at £800, anything more is blatant scalping by legit companies and scalpers, speaking to the missus about the 6900XT and prices she did say not to pay £1000 on a graphics card that likely will have a 5 year tops life span.

6900XT is already visible on AMD site. A bit less than £900, which started to look more and more attractive to me, considering the alternative...

 

[Chrisc]

Ok so assuming you have that container all to yourself, its an increase of $4000 per container for 1300m2 of flooring so an increase of just $3 per m2. A 'pack' of flooring typically contains around 1.3m2 so its only a $4 per pack increase at retail outlet.

Tech products could easily ship more units per container (if they existed) but they could share containers to be efficient. This shouldn't be affecting things if you think logically, its a marginal price increase per unit.

Thats the container freight charge irrespective of what you put in it. LCL prices will split the price of the full container based on the weight/measure of the product. So say for example you could get $20.00 weight measure which is basically $20 per 1cbm or 1000kg this is based on what is greater. LCL has currently gone up to around $60 weight measure.

Its far from marginal price increase.

 

[montymint]

Ok so assuming you have that container all to yourself, its an increase of $4000 per container for 1300m2 of flooring so an increase of just $3 per m2. A 'pack' of flooring typically contains around 1.3m2 so its only a $4 per pack increase at retail outlet.

Tech products could easily ship more units per container (if they existed) but they could share containers to be efficient. This shouldn't be affecting things if you think logically, its a marginal price increase per unit.

Yes but surely with the demand so high atm, tech is going by air freight - where you get far less goods shipped per $XXXX?

 

[DeathStorm]

Now has never been a better time to chin PC gaming off, Series X and PS5 are to good in comparison to how expensive PC Hardware and gaming on that platform has become.

If your only consideration is cost PC was always a poor choice so there's not too much change there, just don't buy the latest graphic cards and move on.

It's kinda irrelevant though, what good does a cheap console do me if the games I want to play are on PC? Games dictate my platforms not vice versa.

 

[GhostDog1981]

6900XT is already visible on AMD site. A bit less than £900, which started to look more and more attractive to me, considering the alternative...

Where does it say the price?

 

[TheBloke]

6900XT is already visible on AMD site. A bit less than £900, which started to look more and more attractive to me, considering the alternative...

Where are you seeing this? I can't see any 6000 series cards on AMD.com, and never have been able to. There's just a banner saying "OUT OF STOCK", then the SHOP link only shows Vega, 5500 and 5600 cards (from resellers)

 

[Chrisc]

Yes but surely with the demand so high atm, tach is going by air freight - where you get far gets goods shipped per $XXXX?

Airfreight is silly at the moment, lack of PAX flights has sent the prices sky rocketing. Only urgent PPE shipments seem to be making it through. ive just had an import from saudi, my freight rate for 200kg has gone from around $200 to $1300

 

[montymint]

Airfreight is silly at the moment, lack of PAX flights has sent the prices sky rocketing. Only urgent PPE shipments seem to be making it through. ive just had an import from saudi, my freight rate for 200kg has gone from around $200 to $1300

Sounds nuts - It must be crazy trying to get consumer electronics in via Air Freight - But I assume that's what people must be doing since cards are still being produced?

 

[danlightbulb]

Airfreight is silly at the moment, lack of PAX flights has sent the prices sky rocketing. Only urgent PPE shipments seem to be making it through. ive just had an import from saudi, my freight rate for 200kg has gone from around $200 to $1300

But that is only $4 per kg. Coming back to these GPUs, obviously they probably don't exist in the first place. But if they did exist, an extra few quid in shipping per unit could just be passed on and no one would notice on an $800 product. Hence, how is shipping a factor? Is there something Im missing here?

 

[Tinek]

Where are you seeing this? I can't see any 6000 series cards on AMD.com, and never have been able to. There's just a banner saying "OUT OF STOCK", then the SHOP link only shows Vega, 5500 and 5600 cards (from resellers)

If you wiggle around their shop you can dig it out, same as 6800XT etc. They're all there, just not easily visible. Anyway, they take USD price and convert directly to GBP plus VAT. Nothing else added. They aren't Apple that do $1 = £1 or so. Hence, price change all the time with real currency conversion fluctuations and so it's very easy to calculate even without seeing their shop. At the moment I can see exactly £898.63 for it.

That said, I expect them to have maybe 100 of these world-wide on their website :/ They'll be gone in seconds, I am sure. And RRP in UK and everywhere else will be much higher (£1k+) I suspect.

 

[gettothechopper]

plenty of spare airliners about right now, must be loads of capacity for air freight

6900XT and 3090 get a 1st class seat each

 

[Chrisc]

Sounds nuts - It must be crazy trying to get consumer electronics in via Air Freight - But I assume that's what people must be doing since cards are still being produced?

yeah exactly. Prices fluctuate regularly anyway and this time of year usually sees higher prices. We usually import a couple of hundred containers of fireworks each year, i think we have done 3 or 4 containers this year because china just wouldnt ship them. Globally, logistics is a nightmare at the minute.

 

[Chrisc]

But that is only $4 per kg. Coming back to these GPUs, obviously they probably don't exist in the first place. But if they did exist, an extra few quid in shipping per unit could just be passed on and no one would notice on an $800 product. Hence, how is shipping a factor? Is there something Im missing here?

I honestly dont have enough time to explain. it can be quite complicated and 99 out of 100 companies wouldnt accept such an increase in price.

 

[danlightbulb]

Just bought a 3070 FE.

Since yesterday I have realised I didn't want to be paying north of £500 for a GPU. 3070 will do me nicely and no need for PSU upgrade.

 

[Streetlight]

yeah exactly. Prices fluctuate regularly anyway and this time of year usually sees higher prices. We usually import a couple of hundred containers of fireworks each year, i think we have done 3 or 4 containers this year because china just wouldnt ship them. Globally, logistics is a nightmare at the minute.

When people like to burn money.... Fireworks has to be near the top pf the list..