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It goes both ways Andy.
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AMD accused of "Golden Sample" on 290X given to reviewers, retail bought cards throttling
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And a 290 and 290X I believe. Well the beating it comfortably part anyway.
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Nvm, fair enough Petey 
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I didn't say you specifically.
The hypocritical glee jumpers exist on both sides is what I was saying.
The hypocritical glee jumpers exist on both sides is what I was saying.
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It's not about the link andy, interpretation of a few here=purpose/intent/reaction, job's a goodun.
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The AMD bias is strong here
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In the 2+ years i have been on Steam i had had one Survey request, that was about a yeah after being on Steam. Steam is about as inaccurate as it gets.
As the real market currently stands its 40% AMD and 60% Nvidia for discrete GPU's, AMD have gained ground from Nvidia in the last few quarters.
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The Steam hardware survey suggests otherwise
That's because it thinks I'm rocking SLi.
Maybe manufacturers should make a standardized bench process for both sides in order to get the real performance?
Lets say, use case options X, Y Z, (3-10 medium priced cases at the time, reviewer can pick which one to use), 1 front fan, 1 back fan, slap the card in there, and run the CPU at stock cooler and stock clocks. Then run a "semi-torture test" like GPU-Z render test for 30mins, then do whatever benching/game testing you normally do.
That would simulate what happens to gamers that are using a normal setup in a normal environment. How many of us really run their gamings rigs at the open table? I know some reviewers already do this, but I think these open table reviews are useless for most users as the temps are entirely different in a normal gaming machine.
Benchmarking tests/reviews could be separate and run in any way they want.
Lets say, use case options X, Y Z, (3-10 medium priced cases at the time, reviewer can pick which one to use), 1 front fan, 1 back fan, slap the card in there, and run the CPU at stock cooler and stock clocks. Then run a "semi-torture test" like GPU-Z render test for 30mins, then do whatever benching/game testing you normally do.
That would simulate what happens to gamers that are using a normal setup in a normal environment. How many of us really run their gamings rigs at the open table? I know some reviewers already do this, but I think these open table reviews are useless for most users as the temps are entirely different in a normal gaming machine.
Benchmarking tests/reviews could be separate and run in any way they want.
The Steam hardware survey suggests otherwise
0.37% other?
Are people still rocking Voodoo 5 or Matrox units? lol. Or is that that company I can't remember the name of who showed up with one product line to challenge red/green about ten years ago then disappeared? /shrug
Guru 3D has a whole (Small) community of people running Voodoo 2 SLI etc
They apparently do it to run old games with GLIDE that are not supported with emulators etc.
Why not, heh.
Steam stats attempt to show the breakdown of GPUs in peoples PCs and it has a massive margin of error. On board Intel GPUs and even APUs are recorded as the primary gaming GPU when in fact they aren't. Unless anyone wants to argue that intel has a 16% market share in gaming GPUs?
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Lets face it, a lot of the games on steam are not very demanding, it would not surprise me if about that many people are using integrated graphics to play some of these games
The issue is though different cards do not perform equally in silent mode, Sweclockers updated their article yesterday showing that a retail purchased sample ran 100mhz slower than their review sample in quiet mode. This variance will exist amongst retail samples too because AMD are (uniquely to 290X) not guaranteeing any base clock, the clockspeed you get in quiet mode is heavily influenced by the quality of the GPU you have purchased.
According to Sweclockers AMD are set to release a driver fix which increases quiet mode fan speeds and should alleviate the problem but that will mean there are now countless reviews with inaccurate dB levels.
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