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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

I agree!! Very strange behaviour which smacks of flip-flop and E-PEEN. I don't understand why people are doing this and I myself have been an Intel user for the last few years due to better SFF PC choice.

So explain peoples mention of Llano? Phenom II and Standard AM3 boards?

You really dont see a reasoning beyond e-peen? If not you need to turn the brain power up a notch
 
not really just normal buisness to be honest

people waiting will see price cuts and a lot will buy intel cause of price cuts thinking bargin time.

come on with real benchies :p
 
So explain peoples mention of Llano? Phenom II and Standard AM3 boards?

You really dont see a reasoning beyond e-peen? If not you need to turn the brain power up a notch

Nice attempt there by hurling childish abuse at people. You seem to be strangely hurt for some reason.

Mention of Llano is relevant because it uses the same 32NM processs. Mention of AM3 motherboards is relevant since people want to know of they can drop in BD into what they have. Phenom II is somewhat relevant since people are interested in knowing how good it is over what AMD currently offers.

However,what is not relevant is people going "look I have got meself a new Core i5 45646 or i7 5904359435 and Bulldozer is gonna be rubbish because what I have is gonna be 1.45 TIMES better ALREADY". That is E-PEEN like post 3214 which you seem to support. If you already have got your upgrade then why mention it on a thread regarding AMD processors?? If you already have final production Bulldozer performance figures then maybe you could share them with us or even strongly hint.

What is not E-PEEN is people talking about the architectural differences between the Core i5 and i7 and Bulldozer in a meaningful way,ie,the things like issue number. At least this gives a meaningful discussion into the relatively merits of each approach.

Learn to read what post I answered instead. Perhaps instead of worrying about people upgrading their brains perhaps you should upgrade your reading ability.
 
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Mention of Llano is relevant because it uses the same 32NM processs. Mention of AM3 motherboards is relevant since people want to know of they can drop in BD into what they have.

Mention of where people went instead is relevant since those who were waiting for BD got sick of waiting.

The ever longer wait is a hotly discussed topic in this thread. Don't like it, don't read such posts.
 
Mention of where people went instead is relevant since those who were waiting for BD got sick of waiting.

The ever longer wait is a hotly discussed topic in this thread. Don't like it, don't read such posts.

Don't like it don't read my posts then. Take your own advice.

Since you are an expert here is the post I replied to.

the same was said about 6970,and that is going to be fastest gpu..whats happened we know lol
they (all retailers) need to hype (especially after so many idiotic delays) and they need to sell (especially when so many ppl went for Intel),simple,and ppl who went for Sandy made absolutely right decision,i for one went for Sandy after 1st BD delay,coz i was sooo sure amd never going to release it on time,and i was dead right

Even now,nearly 1y after Sandy they still dont have it,thats just poor management,ppl just lost interest.Even if they match Sandy it will be fail - 1y late,Intel 4 cores>>>amd 8 cores..not expecting miracles from BD..just lost all confidence in amd,and by the time we really need 6 or even 8 cores (not for showing how big my e-penis) Intel will probably release much better cpu's
amd just shot themselves with this bd releases and promises

1.)What has an HD6970 got to do with anything?? You might as well mention Larrabee then.
2.)When was an official release date EVER mentioned by AMD?? All we got is rough estimates of when it MAY be released.
3.)How does the chap know how fast Bulldozer is?? Where are the offical benches from final production processors?
4.)He mentioned not needing eight cores and yet says he has a 8 thread Core i7. I get the impression he is DESPARATELY hoping that an 8 core Bulldozer will be not be faster than what he has. He could be right but then I don't seem to have access to the info he has. Also,I thought that there would be four and six core Bulldozer CPUs with higher clockspeeds and more L3 cache per core. Of course,I must be wrong.
5.)Intel will release better CPUs?? When is the exact launch date of these CPUs?? If you wait long enough even AMD will release better CPUs.
Better in everyway or what way?? Which ones?? What is the price range of these CPUs?? What is the cost of the motherboards??

It all about how their new CPU will stomp over Bulldozer,etc like a few other posts. Are they party to info we don't have?? If so I want to know. If they already have access to final Bulldozer performance tests maybe they should post them. I have a few mates who are wanting to build new computers this year. Even,I might build another new one this year too and couldn't care less if it is AMD or Intel based and so do my mates.
 
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Except, I'm not the one whining.

You are the one whining. You cannot even take your own advice.

Don't like it, don't read such posts.

You are just skim reading and talking nonsense.
You seem to support posts like the following.
the same was said about 6970,and that is going to be fastest gpu..whats happened we know lol
they (all retailers) need to hype (especially after so many idiotic delays) and they need to sell (especially when so many ppl went for Intel),simple,and ppl who went for Sandy made absolutely right decision,i for one went for Sandy after 1st BD delay,coz i was sooo sure amd never going to release it on time,and i was dead right
Even now,nearly 1y after Sandy they still dont have it,thats just poor management,ppl just lost interest.Even if they match Sandy it will be fail - 1y late,Intel 4 cores>>>amd 8 cores..not expecting miracles from BD..just lost all confidence in amd,and by the time we really need 6 or even 8 cores (not for showing how big my e-penis) Intel will probably release much better cpu's
amd just shot themselves with this bd releases and promises

That is whining.

At least I bothered to post whatever rumoured info I could find on Bulldozer in this thread unlike you. Use the search function for this thread.
 
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MD Bulldozer FX (B2 Stepping) CPUs FX-8150 and FX-8120 to hit retail in Q3 2011

Chinese Website has detailed info on AMD’s Upcoming Bulldozer (Zambezi-FX) Processors. The website claims that the B2 Revisions of the CPU’s have hit production and would be available by late Q3 2011.

The Bulldozer CPU’s were previously delayed because of a Performance bug, The new B2 Revisions were said to go under mass production in August 2011 and would hit retail markets by Late September 2011. The Release of Bulldozer on September 19th is highly likely as mentioned in our earlier post here.

The first two CPU’s based on the new B2 Revisions includes the FX-8150 (FD8150FRW8KGU) Featuring 8Cores/8Threads, 8MB L3 Cache, Stock Frequency of 3.6Ghz (Turbo – 4.2Ghz) while the other FX-8120 (FD8120FRW8KGU) is also an 8 Core CPU with same specs and just a little low clock frequency of 3.1Ghz (T.C – 4.1Ghz). Both CPU’s feature TDP of 125W.

The Q3 2011 lineup would also include FX-6100 (Hexa Core), FX-4100 (Quad Core) and FX-8100 (OctaCore) CPU’s featuring 95W TDP. These would be followed by another lineup which would be released in Q1 2012 and will include 4 new CPU’s detailed in the chart below:
http://cpuforever.com/Thread-AMD-Bu...-FX-8150-and-FX-8120-to-hit-retail-in-Q3-2011
 
Perhaps it's just me being a skeptic, but I have a feeling September will just be a paper launch/extremely low supply until mid-October.

As for Bulldozer itself, I really want it to be good, but AMD's track record the past few years has not been positive.
 
Perhaps it's just me being a skeptic, but I have a feeling September will just be a paper launch/extremely low supply until mid-October.

As for Bulldozer itself, I really want it to be good, but AMD's track record the past few years has not been positive.

Well given that Atom is now dead in the water until 2013 and Intel will have no competitor to LLano in the near future, I'd say AMD's track record has been exceptionally good, of late. Wouldn't you?
 
Well given that Atom is now dead in the water until 2013 and Intel will have no competitor to LLano in the near future, I'd say AMD's track record has been exceptionally good, of late. Wouldn't you?
Fair game, I completely overlooked that segment of the market. I stand corrected.

That being said, they haven't really done anything promising to threaten Intel's dominance in the mid/high-end for a while. They've been competing on value, a race to the bottom of sorts (though overall, that's not necessarily a bad thing), rather than offering better products.
 
Fair game, I completely overlooked that segment of the market. I stand corrected.

That being said, they haven't really done anything promising to threaten Intel's dominance in the mid/high-end for a while. They've been competing on value, a race to the bottom of sorts (though overall, that's not necessarily a bad thing), rather than offering better products.

They're competing in the biggest markets and selling every processor they can make.
 
Nice attempt there by hurling childish abuse at people. You seem to be strangely hurt for some reason.

You started hurling the abuse first friend.

By saying people who were mentioning Sandybridge(including myself) were just increasing their E-peen. Hense my telling you to up the brain power usage you have going on. As I can say for certain thats not anything to do with my purchase or post.
 
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