bah, power management is the first thing we overclockers turn OFF
Not necessarily I leave cool'n'quiet on my Phenom II.
It could also just be an engineering sample and not have things set right.
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AMD Bulldozer Finally!
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Not necessarily I leave cool'n'quiet on my Phenom II.
It could also just be an engineering sample and not have things set right.
bah, power management is the first thing we overclockers turn OFF
But It may not mean CnQ.
It may mean the handling of the voltage or something
No as its running in a standard AM3+ board, if it was running really at 223 TDP the board would trip or malfunction for sure. So BS TDP figure is gonna be BS, thought it was posted a while back this was a known issue with BD and CPU-Z?
Why people think its going to have a monstrous TDP value is beyond me.
PS, I leave my CnQ on with my 1090T also.
I don't mean it is actually doing that, Cpu-z clearly does not pull the figure from what the chip is actually doing otherwise it would change on a chip per chip basis and the voltage a certain chip is at. It pulls it from the info AMD has put onto the chip and AMD could put this at whatever it wants. I doubt Cpu-z is reading it wrong.
Ah right thought you meant the CPU was probably not set right and it was actually pulling that figure. Yeah maybe something like that, am not sure how CPU-Z sees the TDP but I dont think on any of my AMD CPU's its been anything like a real representative value.
I will probably need corrected but I would say cpu-z pulls some of that information from a some sort of rom (name?) on the chip where details such as the cpu's speed, model, vid etc are stored.
CnQ doesn't work above 3.8Ghz hence why its better to switch it off, plus with overclocking CnQ wouldn't work right due voltage irregularities.....
See here for reference: (Official AMd overclocking guide)
http://sites.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_Dragon_AM3_AM2_Performance_Tuning_Guide.pdf
See here for reference: (Official AMd overclocking guide)
http://sites.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_Dragon_AM3_AM2_Performance_Tuning_Guide.pdf
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We got BIOS support from Asus - thats all we need mate
Don't listen to the AM3+ EOL users trying to justify their upgrades lol
. Been down this road like a million times in this thread already.....
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Oh aye yeah, forgot about the Crosshair IV Formula 3017 Test BIOS - For use with AM3+ CPUs only. Not recommended for use with AM3 or earlier CPUs. Looks like i don't need to buy another motherboard, so all money can go on Bulldozer. Asus must have tested the AM3+ cpu's thenWe got BIOS support from Asus - thats all we need mate
most likely just at stock..Asus must have tested the AM3+ cpu's then
also u may not get all the features..
and we don't even know yet if there will be a slight performance hit or even oc to the same level as a am3+
if BD works/gets all the features/oc to the same level as a am3+ in a am3 board then great, but as it is now we don't know...
just because they've got a bios out for some am3 boards doesn't mean everything is guaranteed to work the same as to am3+ boards.
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They also don't stand over overclocking, Yet people still do it. Its just AMD covering their back.
Most likely not. After researching some more i believe JF-AMD makes things very clear, Bulldozer will not be compatible with AM3 motherboards.
No, he's been clear that AMD will offer no support for BD on AM3, the motherboard vendors though are offering support and BD will work on some of the boards, whether they overclock the same or offer the same features that are supported on AM3+ is a different matter though.
Bit like core unlocking. Not supported by AMD explicitly but allowed by third party vendors.
I think the power features refereed to in AM3+ CPUs/AM3 motherboards will be core/cache power gating. What that will mean to overclockers I don't know, hopefully bog all
just to make my point clear.
yes some motherboard companys has release a bios for some am3 boards to allow BD to run on them BUT it doesn't mean everything (all features, overclocking, being stable, ect) is guaranteed to work/be the same as to am3+ boards.
using a BD on a am3 board it's unofficial method and may run into issues ect.
yes some motherboard companys has release a bios for some am3 boards to allow BD to run on them BUT it doesn't mean everything (all features, overclocking, being stable, ect) is guaranteed to work/be the same as to am3+ boards.
using a BD on a am3 board it's unofficial method and may run into issues ect.
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This should be stickied to the forehead of this thread!!
(oo-er!)There's no way I am going to change a perfectly useable board for BD, JUST to find out that the second generation (which is less than a year away afterwards) requires an entirely different socket type! i.e. FM2. Absolutely pointless in AM3 users with BIOS support for BD to be upgrading to AM3+
we do not even know if FM2 BD will be release in less than a year, it could be delayed to q4 2012 - q1/q2+ 2013.
nobody knows
as i said:
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