Caporegime
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Benchmark is most likely the first pass, because the results are high and the first pass is the fastest(afaik), the issue being, people run different settings so a comparison is only easily useful if you know settings used, and knowing what the cpu's are exactly helps a lot 
No one knows what the results are, but if the results are of only the 3 threaded part, the result is beyond awesome, if its more than one pass and averaged, its less good, but still good, who knows basically.
Too many people jumping to conclusions, if thats 8 threads vs 4 threads, then that paints a not great picture, but even then it could be other limits.
As for benchers all saying they want to buy a bulldozer....... take that for what it is, BENCHERS want to buy it, do they want it for 24/7 use, because they just want a higher clock speed chip, or because it will pawn Sandy under ln2/he but won't be better in real world usage, they could mean either frankly.
Personally my feeling right now is, its very good, it spanks Phenom, it will almost certainly have higher IPC, and more cores, vs a Phenom 2 the results are going to be nothing short of fantastic, of course most AMD owners only have 4 cores .
Will it trounce Sandybridge, no, why would it, will the octo cores beat a 2500k badly in some instances, sure, be close in others, sure. Will AMD do what they do and try their best to offer more performance for the money, almost certainly that will be their goals.
Will Ivy come out and push Intel's lead forwards by miles, not that likely, though more recent info has suggested a few more tweaks than maybe expected.
Bulldozer is going to close the gap a lot, and 2nd and 3rd gen aren't that far off by all accounts and probably 3rd gen is going to be competing with Haswell, mid 2013, which could be awesome, 8 cores cores, maybe 16 threads with HT.
Basically, Sandy or Bulldozer are going to last you to Haswell in mid 2013, and I doubt the vast vast majority of people would be able to tell a major difference between either chip.
EDIT:_ For the record Xbit have a thing up on IDF/x79 stuff today and in the roundup they say Bulldozer won't have the lead for very long due to Sandy-e, if anyone keeps even a little up to date with Xbit they tend to be highly critical on AMD/ati and bulldozer particularly, sticking the knife in at every delay and every piece of unsubstantiated news, insanely dodgey xfire vs sli review and now they, amongst a bunch of others seem to suddenly think Bulldozer is going to take the lead, benchers all wanting it(though as mentioned they didn't really say for benching or just normal use) and some benchmarks that are certainly interesting that seem to be from more realistic sources, IE, AMD demo's.
As said, jumping to conclusions is wrong but a lot of the people around the web, review sites and people who think they are in the know and have been badmouthing Bulldozer for months are suddenly very quiet while a lot of people who have seen it in the past week are insanely enthusiastic over it....... I think its fair to say the signs have taken a turn for the better in the past week.
No one knows what the results are, but if the results are of only the 3 threaded part, the result is beyond awesome, if its more than one pass and averaged, its less good, but still good, who knows basically.Too many people jumping to conclusions, if thats 8 threads vs 4 threads, then that paints a not great picture, but even then it could be other limits.
As for benchers all saying they want to buy a bulldozer....... take that for what it is, BENCHERS want to buy it, do they want it for 24/7 use, because they just want a higher clock speed chip, or because it will pawn Sandy under ln2/he but won't be better in real world usage, they could mean either frankly.
Personally my feeling right now is, its very good, it spanks Phenom, it will almost certainly have higher IPC, and more cores, vs a Phenom 2 the results are going to be nothing short of fantastic, of course most AMD owners only have 4 cores .
Will it trounce Sandybridge, no, why would it, will the octo cores beat a 2500k badly in some instances, sure, be close in others, sure. Will AMD do what they do and try their best to offer more performance for the money, almost certainly that will be their goals.
Will Ivy come out and push Intel's lead forwards by miles, not that likely, though more recent info has suggested a few more tweaks than maybe expected.
Bulldozer is going to close the gap a lot, and 2nd and 3rd gen aren't that far off by all accounts and probably 3rd gen is going to be competing with Haswell, mid 2013, which could be awesome, 8 cores cores, maybe 16 threads with HT.
Basically, Sandy or Bulldozer are going to last you to Haswell in mid 2013, and I doubt the vast vast majority of people would be able to tell a major difference between either chip.
EDIT:_ For the record Xbit have a thing up on IDF/x79 stuff today and in the roundup they say Bulldozer won't have the lead for very long due to Sandy-e, if anyone keeps even a little up to date with Xbit they tend to be highly critical on AMD/ati and bulldozer particularly, sticking the knife in at every delay and every piece of unsubstantiated news, insanely dodgey xfire vs sli review and now they, amongst a bunch of others seem to suddenly think Bulldozer is going to take the lead, benchers all wanting it(though as mentioned they didn't really say for benching or just normal use) and some benchmarks that are certainly interesting that seem to be from more realistic sources, IE, AMD demo's.
As said, jumping to conclusions is wrong but a lot of the people around the web, review sites and people who think they are in the know and have been badmouthing Bulldozer for months are suddenly very quiet while a lot of people who have seen it in the past week are insanely enthusiastic over it....... I think its fair to say the signs have taken a turn for the better in the past week.
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