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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

psychas said:
should not of told him got removed now what was in the video ?

edit: oh i seen it nvm he says that

buy he doesn't say per clock per clock , but if it is it works out 12.5% faster wich is bit dire ?

considering that 8 core bulldozer that will go ahead with i7 ~ 2600k , people will be disappointed.
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I have debunked the 12.5% number lots of times. The 50% better performance is a throughput number. You cannot make a speed assumption based on that. It's like saying an SUV can pull a 10,000 pound boat so that must mean it can do 0-60 in 5.4 seconds. Two different metrics.


zoomee said:
ooo - where'd my linked pics go?

JF-AMD - you been pulling an NDA one on us? :)
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Nope.
 
Image is a fake as we all know and is well documented. The CPUZ screen shot shows very little but 4 cores. Okay CPUZ has flaws and needs updaiting and the CPUID will do that. NO ES is about currently. I spoke to Asus when i RMA'd my CH IV and asked will it be okay to run the new stuff, I got told just a BIOS is all you will need which i already know. Im happy that i got a newer revision replacment board so minor tweaks hoping been done.

Intergrated gfx version of the cpu i belive will use the extra pins but there next year
 
I worked with engineering on what is shown on CPU-Z. If you give me a link to the screenshot I can tell you if it is a fake. If they do not have the right version you will get bad data.
 
rypt said:
So basically that article tells us that JF-AMD managed to tell us a pack of lies by saying it is AM3+ only, as the AMD France guy confirmed it will fit in AM3
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JF-AMD said AMD aren't supporting bulldozer processors in am3 boards, don't think he said they won't work.
 
I thought JF said it wouldn't be supported by AMD in socket AM3, never saw him say it wouldn't work.
At the moment the lack of information is damaging AMD, i cant see why they are not releasing benchies.
 
I read some latest news that AMD admitted that some high-end motherboard like Crosshair IV Forumla and Exterme would support AM3+ CPU -- Asus still lots of work to do with testing before it release full BIOS version to run the Bullozer CPU that would take few months time.... best to wait until BD come out then see if it work plus fit into the socket... at the moment we have to wait until the news come out. AMD has change the BD pins few weeks ago and the current 942pins may change to 941 or 940 as AMD seem to changed thier mind about the support to AM3 as backward... it usual change it mind sometime.
 
I thought JF said it wouldn't be supported by AMD in socket AM3, never saw him say it wouldn't work.
At the moment the lack of information is damaging AMD, i cant see why they are not releasing benchies.
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If it was vastly better than the competition they would be shouting it from the rooftops. I susspect it to probably be on par with sandbridge chips, better at somethings worse at others. Intel will then react with faster chips + extra cores making AMD way behind again.

I agree this is hurting AMD. I'm not an AMD fan but if I was I would be very tempted to get Intel SB right now.

That's my opinion anyway.
 
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mr griffin said:
it to probably be on par with sandbridge chips, better at somethings worse at others.
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Never a truer word spoken I suspect.

Lets be honest, as time goes on, it becomes increasingly more difficult (in the wonderful world of the CPU/GPU) to create something that completely demolishes the opposition.

Though from a personal point of view, I shall be waiting for BD to come out before I decided which platform to re-build on.
 
would be a disaster though if it can't beat an i5 2500k as the 2500k is already at a very good price unless its gonna end up in the bargain bin at around 120-130 quid. However time will tell when we see benchmarks.
 
Yurihyuga said:
would be a disaster though if it can't beat an i5 2500k as the 2500k is already at a very good price unless its gonna end up in the bargain bin at around 120-130 quid. However time will tell when we see benchmarks.
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Indeed it would!

So considering the Intel chip is pretty impressive (including the ability to hold a decent OC) AMD have to to pull something pretty cool (and priced just right) out of the bag.

We live in interesting times. As I am wont to say at times like this.
 
amdbulldozerbenchmark.png


Take with pinch of salt.
 
braveheart said:
I read some latest news that AMD admitted that some high-end motherboard like Crosshair IV Forumla and Exterme would support AM3+ CPU -- Asus still lots of work to do with testing before it release full BIOS version to run the Bullozer CPU that would take few months time.... best to wait until BD come out then see if it work plus fit into the socket... at the moment we have to wait until the news come out. AMD has change the BD pins few weeks ago and the current 942pins may change to 941 or 940 as AMD seem to changed thier mind about the support to AM3 as backward... it usual change it mind sometime.
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AMD wouldn't be talking about board compatibility because we do not make boards. We only comment on what we will support. Which is AM3+ only.

mr griffin said:
If it was vastly better than the competition they would be shouting it from the rooftops. I susspect it to probably be on par with sandbridge chips, better at somethings worse at others. Intel will then react with faster chips + extra cores making AMD way behind again.

I agree this is hurting AMD. I'm not an AMD fan but if I was I would be very tempted to get Intel SB right now.

That's my opinion anyway.
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And then sales would stall and our OEM partners would be asking for big checks to cover lost sales. It is bad business to release benchmarks too far ahead of the product. Everyone knows it is coming but when benchmarks hit people assume it is "right around the corner" so they wait.

And people don't wait because they want higher performance. They wait because they assume when the new ones come out that older system prices will come down and they want to take advantage of that.
 
And then sales would stall and our OEM partners would be asking for big checks to cover lost sales. It is bad business to release benchmarks too far ahead of the product. Everyone knows it is coming but when benchmarks hit people assume it is "right around the corner" so they wait.

And people don't wait because they want higher performance. They wait because they assume when the new ones come out that older system prices will come down and they want to take advantage of that.
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I'm not saying they would officially be shouting it from the rooftops, but they would be making sure some sort of leak was made which showed loayal AMD buyers its was worth waiting for over the competition. So is BD not right around the corner then? coz its seems like talk of its release has been going on forever now.
 
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