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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

Not on the positioning according to AMDs roadmap the 8xxxP was shown as the direct competitor of the 2600k ,not the 990x that wasn't even mentioned.
 
Well we already know it's faster than Sandy. If these chips overclock like a demon then we may see a mass migration to AMD!

what? how do you know that???
can you drop review link plz? games benches,4core vs. 4core benches? any legitimate review plz
i saw only few fake pics, where supposed buldozers with more cores have less tdp than those with lesser cores. 96,97 tdp?lol
nobody knows about them i guess,exept amd,and why there should be migration?
wont be surprised if there will be another delay
 
Not on the positioning according to AMDs roadmap the 8xxxP was shown as the direct competitor of the 2600k ,not the 990x that wasn't even mentioned.

I didn't say that the 8xxxp was a direct competitor to the 990x everyone knows its not. I am saying what ever company has the crown of fastest cpu charges silly money for it. you would think a new AMD 8 core cpu would beat a 6 core Intel and not have to go head to head with only a quad core Intel. If it did it would also be £800
 
I didn't say that the 8xxxp was a direct competitor to the 990x everyone knows its not. I am saying what ever company has the crown of fastest cpu charges silly money for it. you would think a new AMD 8 core cpu would beat a 6 core Intel and not have to go head to head with only a quad core Intel. If it did it would also be £800

Am not getting into the difference between 4c/8t and 8c/8t because to be honest I dont honestly care, Ill just go to which ever one suits my purpose best when all the smoke and illusion has passed.
I was pointing out the pricing structure thats all, if an 8 core can best a 4 core and is better at doing what people need for the sake of a tenner or so's difference then its a moot point to be honest (not saying this is gonna happen,like I said will wait till the smoke clears)
But saying they cant compete on performance so they're competing on price when they're (rumors and guesswork allowing) pricing their chips slightly higher than Intels on the same standpoint and tier as far as performance is guessed at makes no sense.
Or is this why the rumors of Intel raising their prices come into it? They cant stand not being top of the price lists? At this tier of CPUs anyway.
 
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All speculation, but it looks like the new AMD chips will mimic Intel price-wise: http://wccftech.com/2011/05/20/amd-bulldozer-llano-fusion-pricing-information-leaked/

which is acceptable as they pip the i7 2600k. Nothing short of impressive: http://wccftech.com/2011/05/21/amd-...e-exposed-beats-i7-2600k-cinebench-benchmark/

(Apologies if already posted).

really hope that's a real benchmark, i really dont care if it beats an i7 2600k at single threaded stuff, i currently can run any game i've tried so far, metro 2033/shogun 2, at maximum settings no problem on my 1090t (ati 6950 with unlocked shaders), and multithreading "should" only get better, single core performance "should" become less important lol. I spent several hours today rendering scenes in lightwave 3d whilst playing mass effect 2 at max settings no problem, with very little loss on render time. I want to see some seriously impressive numbers when it comes to multithreaded apps and i think price is very very important, no point in having something that can marginally beat intels best if it costs the same or more, it has to be cheaper as regardless of how good they are intel already have a lot of ground on them, so the thing that plays on my mind is ok even if bulldozer is good, should i wait for ivybridge?? bulldozer has to be something special.
 
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Well we already know it's faster than Sandy. If these chips overclock like a demon then we may see a mass migration to AMD!

No we don't.
If it takes 8 "cores" to beat 4 cores. Who's faster?
We don't know anything until it actually launches.

If BD is better clock for clock, then I'll say it's better than Sandy.

the 4110's will be the flagships ;)

The 8130p is.
 
Sorry if this has already been posed :p Borrowed from another forum:

From the looks of it, The FX-8130P will be the FX-series top offering featuring a core clock of 3.8Ghz and a Turbo Core speed of 4.2Ghz, Keep in mind that this is a 8-Core CPU and will be priced for 320$ against the FX 8110′s 290$ price which is also a 8 Core variant but features lesser core frequency of 3.6Ghz and 4.0Ghz (Turbo Core). A Turbo Core speed of 4.0Ghz + is quite amazing considering the Intel’s 310$ (i7 2600K) which comes with a core clock of 3.4Ghz with turbo boost of 3.8Ghz.


The FX-8130P has a max TDP of 125W and FX-8110 has 95W max TDP. Detailed info from the chart below:

AMD FX-8130P – 8 Core, 3.8Ghz, Max T.C 4.2Ghz, 125W (320$)
AMD FX-8110 – 8 Core, 3.6Ghz, Max T.C 4.0Ghz, 95W (290$)
AMD FX-6110 – 6 Core, Unknown, Max T.C Unknown, 95W (240$)
AMD FX-4110 – 4 Core, Unknown, Max T.C Unknown, 95W (190$)


Source

But 4.2Ghz (TC) for an 8 Core CPU. I'm sold if this is true!
 
You all forget or don't know how the market works.

For me the rival i work for we buy them in 5K lots! We sell them as a part, as a build, bundle and barebones and get through them fast! The price is what we are told to sell them at retail for. There cheaper than 2600K just!

For other stores they might go through an agents that has mass stock
 
No we don't.
If it takes 8 "cores" to beat 4 cores. Who's faster?
We don't know anything until it actually launches.

If BD is better clock for clock, then I'll say it's better than Sandy.



The 8130p is.

If it takes 8core to beat 1core then the 8core is still faster. Personally I don't care so much how many cores, Level 3 cache it takes for AMD to start competing with intel, if it's faster at stock than a stock 2600K then it's faster.

However that got me thinking, given the below score, how would my 2600K compare at 3.8 (I am assuming that they benched the faster AMD FX-8130P).

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So I down-clocked my Sandy to 3.8:

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And it seems that clock for clock the AMD FX-8130P is faster. The higher Sandy score is what I'm really interested in given that I run my chip at 4.8Ghz 24/7.
 
I'm just lol'ing at your fail.
How on Earth is the AMD FX-8130p faster clock for clock? It MIGHT be, but we don't know yet.
We haven't got actual benchmarks with clocks/cores or anything.

Just wait till it launches.

And what programs even use 8 cores? Clock for clock performance is what's important...
Throwing cores together isn't going to do anything when the software won't use it.
 
For me the rival i work for we buy them in 5K lots! We sell them as a part, as a build, bundle and barebones and get through them fast! The price is what we are told to sell them at retail for. There cheaper than 2600K just!

what is just cheaper than the 2600k? :confused:
 
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