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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

I could point you to what happened with the 6970...

Apples and oranges, they're two different markets and are hardly a predictable playing field (or at least as predictable as CPUs). After all the 990 chipset is the first AMD chipset in a long time to support SLI which meant there was a degree of lock out for nVidia amongst AMD chip owners.
 
Apples and oranges, they're two different markets and are hardly a predictable playing field (or at least as predictable as CPUs). After all the 990 chipset is the first AMD chipset in a long time to support SLI which meant there was a degree of lock out for nVidia amongst AMD chip owners.
Huh?

I'm talking about the launch of the AMD 6970 GPU, which up until the week before was going to be £350-400 each, but then they had to drop the price because it just wasn't fast enough to command that price.

Just because AMD have priced their top CPUs higher doesn't mean that the performance will justify it, there's no guarantee a respin will work for improving clock rates.
 
nah i think what it was they didn't expect 580 gtx and lowered prices on 480 gtx that's why they lowered the price , correct me if im wrong Jester.
 
I'm lost, I'm on about a launch lol?

Unless the RRP was lowered before launch.

nah i think what it was they didn't expect 580 gtx and lowered prices on 480 gtx that's why they lowered the price , correct me if im wrong Jester.
The price was dropped just before launch, about a week from what I can remember. So the 580GTX had already been out for a month or so, so it wasn't a big surprise.
 
Huh?

I'm talking about the launch of the AMD 6970 GPU, which up until the week before was going to be £350-400 each, but then they had to drop the price because it just wasn't fast enough to command that price.

Just because AMD have priced their top CPUs higher doesn't mean that the performance will justify it, there's no guarantee a respin will work for improving clock rates.

Whoops, missed that one!

Even so, Sandybridge CPUs have been around long enough to have a decent benchmark and with Ivybridge being quite a way into the horizon, I'd feel confident that their expected RRP is reflective of their performance. That being said, their delay would suggest that they are maintaining that price whilst they move on to the next stepping to ensure that the price is justified by performance.

If they had gone ahead and released the B0 stepping, then I'm sure prices would have changed from their current expected tiers. Though, as with all of this, it's just speculation. Having spent so many years as the underdog (by a rather wide margin too) in the CPU market, I'd expect AMD to be hungry to once again have the upper hand and to make sure that they do pip Intel in the higher echelons of performance.
 
However it is spun, delays negatively impact on sales and any product's success. BD might (arguably) give SB a run for it's money, but it's release will be much closer to IB than anyone thought, and people (OEM's included) may just wait for IB and the inherrant price cutting of SB.

AMD appear screwed. If they had any positive PR to release they would do so.
 
However it is spun, delays negatively impact on sales and any product's success. BD might (arguably) give SB a run for it's money, but it's release will be much closer to IB than anyone thought, and people (OEM's included) may just wait for IB and the inherrant price cutting of SB.

AMD appear screwed. If they had any positive PR to release they would do so.

i agree, this is getting worse and worse :(
 
I'm a bit confused here (perhaps naive, perhaps not). AMD have their Fusion gubbins and various other new parts literally s***ing all over Intel at every angle in some of the fastest growing market sectors like netbooks, low cost server farms, etc, and yet you guys are moaning about some very niche low yield high spec CPUs which pretty much make nothing (infact probably a loss, lets face it).

If I'm in charge of AMD's corporate strategy, I sure know what I'd be pushing?
 
I'm a bit confused here (perhaps naive, perhaps not). AMD have their Fusion gubbins and various other new parts literally s***ing all over Intel at every angle in some of the fastest growing market sectors like netbooks, low cost server farms, etc, and yet you guys are moaning about some very niche low yield high spec CPUs which pretty much make nothing (infact probably a loss, lets face it).

If I'm in charge of AMD's corporate strategy, I sure know what I'd be pushing?

that is true, Intel dominate the performance market, AMD flood all other markets though but AMD still need to release their Bulldozer cpu's to convince and increase the reputation of the components :)
 
Hi guys

Read through some of this thread (not all othersise it'd take ages!) but i basically am unsure if I should wait for this?

I'm looking at bulding a new system for video editing/graphics/3d modelling. Going to be buying in aprox 2 weeks (unless Bulldozer is worth waiting for) but dont know if to wait or just go SB?
 
Hi guys

Read through some of this thread (not all othersise it'd take ages!) but i basically am unsure if I should wait for this?

I'm looking at bulding a new system for video editing/graphics/3d modelling. Going to be buying in aprox 2 weeks (unless Bulldozer is worth waiting for) but dont know if to wait or just go SB?

if the upgrade is urgent, so SB, if you can wait, wait.
 
none of us really know if its worth waiting on, if you can b bothered to wait and find out then you should, if u must however upgrade in two weeks then fire away. am sure more detail will leak/released over course of next few weeks hopefully.
 
If the BD was up there with sandybridge performance, I would think AMD would be shouting about it, all these delays and lack of updates points to the fact that the performance is not there.
 
If the BD was up there with sandybridge performance, I would think AMD would be shouting about it, all these delays and lack of updates points to my idle speculation that the performance is not there.

Fixed.

Face it. For whatever reason they've decided to delay it, there's no way they're going to be mounting a big push immediately for something which isn't coming immediately. Releasing benches will just give information to their competitor unnecessarily early.

Q. What ****es people off more than delays and no info?
A. Information and no product.
 
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