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AMD CES 2018

here's the roadmap photos / slides from CES for those that don't want to go hunting for them

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Zen was made on a 14nm 3Ghz node, despite this Ryzen and Threadripper still clock to 4Ghz+

12nm is apparently much much faster so should clock inline with Intel, AMD did say they expect double digit performance improvements with Zen+
 
This is a thread in the Graphics Card section of the forums right? XD

All that aside, only goes to show what we can expect this year from AMD. They'll keep the CPU train rolling and not even bother with GPUs. I'm just glad I got a decent 980ti while the going was good. Unless they can fix their mistakes with a Vega refresh... but would anyone even be interested in that?
 
This is a thread in the Graphics Card section of the forums right? XD

All that aside, only goes to show what we can expect this year from AMD. They'll keep the CPU train rolling and not even bother with GPUs. I'm just glad I got a decent 980ti while the going was good. Unless they can fix their mistakes with a Vega refresh... but would anyone even be interested in that?

Would anyone be interested in Vega cards at RRP? Not sure if serious TBH.
 
This is a thread in the Graphics Card section of the forums right? XD

when there's info from AMD on their roadmap for graphics cards, i'll add them here... but oddly, they've been surrprisingly quiet about graphics so far at CES

giving a few hints about GPU's dropping to the same 12nm and then 7nm process... but no real dates or release schedules that i've seen at all.

makes me think they've got something big to announce in a few months and want to have their own spotlight, rather than sharing with everything else at CES
 
literally this is their info from CES on their graphics line...

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it's a bit... um... sparse with the details lol... unless their 2020 project is actually named "Next-Gen", then we don't even have a 2 year roadmap completed for their GPU's yet lol
 
So no new desktop GPUs from AMD this year then. Not surprising. Their GPU division is in complete disarray.

Ooooh, maybe they can re-brand Polaris again. I'd love another £300 card with 290/390 performance. Yes, please.
 
So no new desktop GPUs from AMD this year then. Not surprising. Their GPU division is in complete disarray.

Ooooh, maybe they can re-brand Polaris again. I'd love another £300 card with 290/390 performance. Yes, please.

A bit of a strange post.
 
A bit of a strange post.
It's quite clear - from that slide entitled "2018 Graphics Portfolio" that the only desktop GPUs for the year will be Vega 56 & 64.

Vega 7nm is for AI only.

AMD just don't have the resources to launch a new desktop GPU every year. Vega 56/64 has to last until Navi, going up against whatever nV will bring this year.

Poor Vega.

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-update-7nm-vega-2018-navi-2019/

This means, that we will probably not see any other graphics update from AMD in the entirety of 2018.

Slide's meaning seems obvious enough, but wccf probably slightly more believable than my babbling :p
 
It's quite clear - from that slide entitled "2018 Graphics Portfolio" that the only desktop GPUs for the year will be Vega 56 & 64.

Vega 7nm is for AI only.

AMD just don't have the resources to launch a new desktop GPU every year. Vega 56/64 has to last until Navi, going up against whatever nV will bring this year.

Poor Vega.

Lots of assumptions. Maybe but probably fanboy TBH.
 
Lots of assumptions. Maybe but probably fanboy TBH.
http://www.techsbay.com/amd-all-but-relinquishes-high-end-desktop-graphics-in-2018/

According to AMD’s most recently published graphics roadmap, 2018 is going to see a continuation of existing Vega 64 and Vega 56 graphics cards, with no new addition to the high-end desktop. Vega, which hasn’t been able to compete with NVIDIA’s GP102 based products like the GTX 1080 Ti, continues to be in short supply to date. What makes overall matters worse is that it will have to compete with a brand new roster of Volta products later this year.

And while the announcement of 7nm Vega has surprised some, we’ve known and reported about it in as early as January of last year. Sadly, 7nm Vega isn’t only meaningless for gamers because it’s strictly for the AI market, it will only be sampling this year and isn’t expected to see actual availability until 2019. So even if the company eventually decided to launch a gaming oriented version of this silicon, it won’t see the light of day until 2019.

Game over.
 
Assumptions based on assumptions. Like I said, maybe but probably fanboy hopes and dreams.
Not really. We're just seeing what's right in front of our eyes.

The "fanboy" reaction would be to ignore the obvious conclusion and pretend that the slide was "ambiguous", when it totally isn't. No new consumer GPU in 2018. They've spelled it out for you.

Assumption it is not. Just basic reading comprehension.

It also fits with what we know about AMD and RTG. Division starved of cash, lost its leader, in disarray. They've been handed a lifeline thanks to miners otherwise they'd pretty much have had to write off Vega and go back to the drawing board.
 
Not really. We're just seeing what's right in front of our eyes.

The "fanboy" reaction would be to ignore the obvious conclusion and pretend that the slide was "ambiguous", when it totally isn't. No new consumer GPU in 2018. They've spelled it out for you.

Assumption it is not. Just basic reading comprehension.

AMD have shown some slides off at a big trade show. Everything else is your opinions. Or maybe hopes.
 
AMD have shown some slides off at a big trade show. Everything else is your opinions. Or maybe hopes.
My hope was that AMD would release a better GPU in 2018. Failing that, that nV would.

I no longer have any hope for AMD, and I'm not even sure nV are going to have anything but Pascal until Q3.

Why would I hope for AMD to suck? Because I like having fewer options? I'm not that petty. But I haven't had much hope for AMD for a long while. They are the masters of talking the talk then being unable to walk without falling flat on their faces. They are so cash starved that releasing anything is a major triumph for them.

It doesn't pay to delude yourself with unrealistic expectations, jigger. AMD will just disappoint you. Crush you with broken dreams :p

nV will fulfil your dreams... but at the cost of your soul, one of your kidneys, and your firstborn child. I prefer AMD when they're actually delivering.
 
This with everything else I've quoted from you needs a special mention.
Yeah you got me. Anyone that says anything about AMD that isn't gushing praise is not only wrong, but deluded and biased for nV. I've been unmasked! I actually sleep on a bed constructed of Titan Vs, have a life-sized JSH pillow that I sleep with, and accidentally his face on my
 
My hope was that AMD would release a better GPU in 2018. Failing that, that nV would.

I no longer have any hope for AMD, and I'm not even sure nV are going to have anything but Pascal until Q3.

Why would I hope for AMD to suck? Because I like having fewer options? I'm not that petty. But I haven't had much hope for AMD for a long while. They are the masters of talking the talk then being unable to walk without falling flat on their faces. They are so cash starved that releasing anything is a major triumph for them.

It doesn't pay to delude yourself with unrealistic expectations, jigger. AMD will just disappoint you. Crush you with broken dreams :p

nV will fulfil your dreams... but at the cost of your soul, one of your kidneys, and your firstborn child. I prefer AMD when they're actually delivering.

Spot on - why anyone would have hope after Polaris and then Vega I have no idea - they pretty much need to knuckle down and prove themselves with a shrunk and refreshed Vega or they might as well not exist in this market. If nVidia did release a 10 or 7nm gaming optimised architecture early this year I can't see how they could reply to that.

have a life-sized JSH pillow that I sleep with

You as well?
 
So no new desktop GPUs from AMD this year then. Not surprising. Their GPU division is in complete disarray.

Ooooh, maybe they can re-brand Polaris again. I'd love another £300 card with 290/390 performance. Yes, please.

I'll just quote this again for you FoxEye...
 
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