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AMD confirms Ryzen 7 5800X3D launches this spring, Zen4 Raphael in 2H 2022

If 5700x is just a lower clocked version of the 5800x then i can see 2nd hand value of 5800x tank hard.
Maybe 5700x has cache cut down? May be just a 65w chip?
I'm not sure second hand prices are AMDs problem. They just want to sell more, faster chips. Every release cuts second hand prices.
 
Wishful thinking again, but AMD would make a few heads turn if they simply replaced the 5800X with the X3D at the same price point. It would make a nice stack then with the others filling in below.
 
Do we actually have confirmation of these new CPUs are coming other than some random tweet by an unknown leaker? None of the big leak youtubers have mentioned this and there's been various rumours of these CPUs supposedly coming since Zen 3 launch.
 
Do we actually have confirmation of these new CPUs are coming other than some random tweet by an unknown leaker? None of the big leak youtubers have mentioned this and there's been various rumours of these CPUs supposedly coming since Zen 3 launch.

Personally think it's a load of BS.
Can't see the point if AMD are releasing AM5 later in the year, I would have thought it would make better sense for them to put them into Eypc chips if they are selling well.
 
It's not BS. It gives a further upgrade path for those that don't want to goto the hassle and expense of changing the AM4 motherboard and avoid the additional expense of DDR5 which confers few benefits
 
It's not BS. It gives a further upgrade path for those that don't want to goto the hassle and expense of changing the AM4 motherboard and avoid the additional expense of DDR5 which confers few benefits
Agreed. It's why I'm excited about it. Won't buy immediately, but will very likely buy after a few months, once the reviews are all in and prices stabilise.
 
Personally think it's a load of BS.
Can't see the point if AMD are releasing AM5 later in the year, I would have thought it would make better sense for them to put them into Eypc chips if they are selling well.

AM5 + Zen 4 + DDR5 is going to be an expensive combo.

These lower end Zen 3 parts will fill in the low end gap while AMD transitions to 5nm for their CPUs.

Once Zen 4 releases I expect AMD will EOL 5900X and 5950X, they may even EOL the 5800X3D but the lower tier parts will stick around to give people cheaper options.
 
AM5 + Zen 4 + DDR5 is going to be an expensive combo.

These lower end Zen 3 parts will fill in the low end gap while AMD transitions to 5nm for their CPUs.

Once Zen 4 releases I expect AMD will EOL 5900X and 5950X, they may even EOL the 5800X3D but the lower tier parts will stick around to give people cheaper options.

HUB disagree, they can see the reasons why AMD are saying end this year for AM5 - its to reduce early adopter tax for the DDR5 cost
 
HUB disagree, they can see the reasons why AMD are saying end this year for AM5 - its to reduce early adopter tax for the DDR5 cost
These days i don't trust anything HUB say, it always seems to be driven by their own motives, a bit like MLID with Intel's GPU's, or really anything Intel.

Strong arguments could be made for AMD moving AM5 forward or just sitting on it throughout the year.
 
Steve Walton was happy when AMD were making CPU's that were slower than Intel's but cheap.

As soon as AMD overtook Intel in performance with Zen 3 and bumped the price up he got very emotional, it didn't matter that Zen 3 still had a better price to performance ratio than Intel it was all about AMD jacking the price up from discount bin.

He later accused Lisa Sue of calling AMD's customers cheap, something she very obviously did not do in his citation, he had very obviously twisted what she had said to fit his own narrative and then used that for his very personal and very public attack on her in her own Twitter feed, its very typical of activist types to do this sort of crap and they do it all the time which tells me everything i need to know about him.

There have been more shenanigans from him since then that i'm not going to go in to again, people who read my posts know what that is.
 
Personally think it's a load of BS.
Can't see the point if AMD are releasing AM5 later in the year, I would have thought it would make better sense for them to put them into Eypc chips if they are selling well.
AMD have confirmed they are coming in the spring (subject to cancellation if they are really as bad as you think of course ;)). Beyond rumours we don't know precisely when.
 
AMD have confirmed they are coming in the spring (subject to cancellation if they are really as bad as you think of course ;)). Beyond rumours we don't know precisely when.

It's starting to look like late spring, but we'll see. Will be interesting to see just how delayed Zen4 will be, as I doubt AMD will launch Zen3 refresh and Zen4 in less than 6 months of each other, would be a pointless excercise. This leaves Intel with huge price and performances advantages for too long IMO.

Also, Raptor Lake gets closer each week AMD delay.
 
It's starting to look like late spring, but we'll see. Will be interesting to see just how delayed Zen4 will be, as I doubt AMD will launch Zen3 refresh and Zen4 in less than 6 months of each other, would be a pointless excercise. This leaves Intel with huge price and performances advantages for too long IMO.

Also, Raptor Lake gets closer each week AMD delay.

What are you talking about, Spring doesn't even start for another 10 days and apparently 5800x3D has shipped out to suppliers with a price of $449. Zen 4 will show up in Q3 no doubt and nothing to hint any differently
 
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