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AMD demonstrates Ryzen 9 5900X prototype with 3D V-Cache stack chiplet design
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You didn't mention what your credentials are though
Let's see the LinkedIn profile, your education and work history
Caporegime
You didn't mention what your credentials are though
Critical thinking, its that switch that goes off in your head when you hear something that defies your instinctive sense of logic, one might not immediately know what that is but another second or so of letting it sink in the answer usually comes to you.
Again i'm not putting Ian down, i accept he knows infinitely more than i do, but critical thinkers don't tend to be religious about the people whose intellectual prowess they respect, they realise like everyone they can make mistakes.
Intel has some crazy good efficiency this time around in games
Optimized for efficiency, the 12900k is able to produce 5.7fps per watt in your esports titles compared to 4fps per watt for the 5950x.
much of this has to do with the fact that the 12990k doesn't need much power to boost its cores for games
Optimized for efficiency, the 12900k is able to produce 5.7fps per watt in your esports titles compared to 4fps per watt for the 5950x.
much of this has to do with the fact that the 12990k doesn't need much power to boost its cores for games
I watched that earlier today. Really interesting!
Amazing efficiency. @LtMatt - you were discussing the need to economize in regard to power consumption for the upcoming electricity rate hike next year. Have you considered upgrading to a 12900k, if gaming is your main purpose?
That way, you'd get the best performance and best power efficiency
Caporegime
Is the 5950X optimised too or running stock? Will have a peek at the video later.
Caporegime
My main game is football manager which is a heavy all core workload. If every core and thread is put to 100% load, which processor do you think will be more efficient?Amazing efficiency. @LtMatt - you were discussing the need to economize in regard to power consumption for the upcoming electricity rate hike next year. Have you considered upgrading to a 12900k, if gaming is your main purpose?
That way, you'd get the best performance and best power efficiency
All comparisons I've seen so far show the 12900k to be the most efficient, though I have not seen a specific benchmark for Football Manager.
Is the exact game "Football Manager 2022"? Minimum requires call for a Intel CPU:Intel Core 2 Duo Q6867, a dual core CPU! I think the 16 cores on either CPU will handle it, with the usual efficiency margins for each CPU.
Soldato
Dual chiplet 5950X with 12nm I/O die is obviously going to draw more power, vs a brand new 10nm part doing very little work. Heck the I/O die alone on the 5950X is so inefficient due to the design, which is still from 2017. That is why when you look at the AMD monolithic chips the PPW is so much better, e.g 5700G, or the mobile parts like the 5500U, or 5800H, they totally hammered Intel. Desktop parts people keep saying PPW doesn't matter, but when a video or review comes along that supports their favourite team suddenly it is important. 
Caporegime
Amazing efficiency. @LtMatt - you were discussing the need to economize in regard to power consumption for the upcoming electricity rate hike next year. Have you considered upgrading to a 12900k, if gaming is your main purpose?
That way, you'd get the best performance and best power efficiency
I love it. You weren't interested in efficiency for Alderlake becuase performance was everything (until it flopped hard and you changed your tune) but now efficiency is a big thing? Just odious behaviour to be honest.
This. I don’t care much. As long as it does not take up silly amounts and can be cooled with an AIO I am happy.Desktop parts people keep saying PPW doesn't matter, but when a video or review comes along that supports their favourite team suddenly it is important.
Caporegime
As a technical exercise this is mildly interesting, but that is the limit of what this is.
It is interesting, its worth while reviewers doing it and so they should.
But, to go in to some insane hyperbole over it as if its something profound.... they should be ashamed of themselves for prostituting themselves as willing useful idiots, because that is exactly what they are doing, especially when a lot of these same people brushed off 130 watts power consumption difference between the 12900K and the 5950X as something almost irrelevant, and then professing 30 watts difference in a manner so contrived as utterly profound they really are prostituting themselves as useful idiots and they know it, what oh what could make them humiliate themselves to such a degree?
How many stacks did it take? What is your integrity worth?
I'm loosing my respect for a lot of tech journalists.
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Apparently alderlake is more efficient than zen3. People are focusing on peak power usage but a recent test showed that taking rendering duration into account alderlake pulled a higher peak but for shorter duration of time and went back to idle. Zen3 cpu pulled less peak power but pulled that power for a longer duration. When the total power draw was taken into account of the render job in joules alderlake was better.
Caporegime
Football manager is like a CBR23 workload on every core, so the 5950X is much more efficient you will find.
Soldato
Good grief but the fanboy crap on here from both sides is embarrassing to read.
Yea, I am going to unsub from this thread.
Don’t plan on upgrading my CPU anytime soon anyways.
Football manager is like a CBR23 workload on every core, so the 5950X is much more efficient you will find.
Do you have any sources/benchmarks to demonstrate this? 12900K wins in 99.9% of gaming benchmarks I've seen
Caporegime
Asks for sources then makes that ridiculous claim....
Don
Seems fairly easy to find some FM benchmarks - I don't even play it and took me 10 seconds:
https://community.sigames.com/forum...rking-thread/?do=findComment&comment=12788260
5950X top in 3 out of 4 benchmarks
Caporegime
What? Alder Lake uses 100% more power, show me where its more than 100% faster, the 5950X is still faster at rendering and it uses half the power.
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