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AMD demonstrates Ryzen 9 5900X prototype with 3D V-Cache stack chiplet design
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I think the 5800x3d could be quite a clever tactic from AMD, there are a lot of AM4 users around, many of which will be twitching to upgrade and considering the ADL path. With the promise of ADL performance and only having to purchase a CPU, many of those tempted by ADL will wait for 5800x3d. I know that's what I would do in that situation and I will almost definitely jump on the 5800x3d as my next upgrade path from the 5600x I currently have.
Funny how I got told I was wrong when I said the 3D cache needs more power, now we can see it in action - the 3D cache chip cpu has had its clock speeds reduced to reallocate power to the L3 cache
The original 5800x runs damn hot too
upto 75 Celsius at stock with a Noctua NH-U14S. The 12900K at stock runs upto 92 Celsius with the same cooler. Just doesn't seem safe or practical. Link:
https://tpucdn.com/review/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-12th-gen/images/cpu-temperature.png
Presumably, the KS will run a bit hotter than that.
In fairness though, the total power consumption of the 12900 (locked version) is apparently ~200w, not bad. These seem like good CPUs.
https://tpucdn.com/review/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-12th-gen/images/cpu-temperature.png
Presumably, the KS will run a bit hotter than that.
In fairness though, the total power consumption of the 12900 (locked version) is apparently ~200w, not bad. These seem like good CPUs.
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Strange, gamers nexus got 75c on the 12900k. Kitguru got 82c for their 5800x review and 84c for 12900k
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Linus got over 90 degrees. Intel really need 7nm, chips run massive heat and power
ADL offers nothing new except adopters cost.
5800x3DV is new cool tech.
I like that and plan been all along to upgrade to 3D cache cpu
12900k runs very cool at stock with a run of the mill AIO/decent air cooler. Idles far lower than Ryzen, though has slightly higher load temperature.
I expect Rocket Lake will further improve on this, as 10nm process will have been further optmised by then.
ADL is the best performing gaming CPU. It's been available for months.
Zen3 refresh is yet to be released or even benchmarked by third paries. It's release date of "Spring" could be months away, and could also be subject to delays.
Zen3 refresh is also on a outdated platform - no Gen5 PCIE, no DDR5. It's price will determine it's sucess, if £350 ish it will sell well, though I expect more like £600, given it's manufacturing complexity.
Finding a Soc 1700 specific cooler would probably help. Everything on the market will likely have a cold plate designed for the AM4 heat spreader.
Lapping the IHS and cold plate along with adjusting the mounting pressure might be a solution. For home gamers just running high temps for a few hours a day probably isn’t much of an issue.
If gaming is main use of the system a 5800X3D is the obvious choice. Sips power, zero beta testing required, bonkers performance and will get max out the GPU.
It’s the base plate that needs to be redesigned. Noctua is just doing away with the mounting kit. The Alder lake IHS seems very convex.
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I think there's an argument to go with Alder Lake 12900 (non K) + B660 motherboard, rather than 8 core Zen3D CPU in the 1st half of 2022. Both can use DDR4 RAM. all comes down to cost rly. If the customer has an AM4 mobo already though, choice seems simple.
By Q4 2022, looks like the best choice will simply be an AM5 system for most people.
Only bit of Intel's presentation at CES that caught my eye:
https://images.hothardware.com/cont...all_intel_12th_gen_core_gaming_benchmarks.jpg
By Q4 2022, looks like the best choice will simply be an AM5 system for most people.
Only bit of Intel's presentation at CES that caught my eye:
https://images.hothardware.com/cont...all_intel_12th_gen_core_gaming_benchmarks.jpg
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Its a last hurrah for AM4, which itself is over 5 years old now. Started pre Ryzen.
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Outdated lol. Nothing uses PCIe Gen 5 and Alder Lake sees no tangible benefit with DDR5. New and shiny may be great, but it's pointless if it's not utilised. And right now it's not.